the new one is the Su-35S
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and from the 1990 ones only the Su-37 had canarads
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that is not true
there were multiple flankers they called the Su-35 in the 90s
they all got an early version of the N010 and upgraded engines
i said most. you said only su-37 (711) has it
most=/= all
thats referring to the pictures i sent. i said that after the pictures
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But the thing that was called ‘Su-35’ in the 1990s had canards. Because the Soviets at the time were copying American supermaneuverability research programs.
no Soviets anymore in 90’s though
But the program for researching canards and thrust vectoring dates back to the 1980s. In the 1990s, there was no time for research - all they were doing was trying to sell their best weapons systems to someone.
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it first flew in 88, which is soviet. although to be fair, the first 2 planes were converted old t-10s prototypes, the first brand new t-10m/su-27m/su35 flew in 92, and only 3 production/serial aircraft were made in the mid 90s that went nowhere before the program collapsed, and was restarted in the early 2000s
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Su33 had canards around the same time as those, and a very similar design was adopted and I don’t think the supermanoeuvrability programs had any meaningful reference to Su27s.
That’s impossible, since the Su-33 prototype first flew in 1987, while thrust vectoring and canard research on the F-15 was conducted in the early 1980s.
First flew in 1988. (the canard was added after first flight, so this is the first flight after canard addition)
Nice 405.
what year, also i cant find a real image of it showing it in that configuration,
F-15B 71-0291
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- I don’t think that is a real image
- It received upgrades and was converted to a test bed before receiving a canard latter.
- Even if it is earlier than SU33, it wouldn’t be years until the Russian engineers find out about it, like how it took 20 years to notice T64.
Also this from wiki. Boeing: History – Chronology - 1988 - 1992 Sept. 7: The McDonnell Douglas F-15 S/MTD (short takeoff and landing/maneuvering technology demonstrator) flies for the first time.
3D TVC was the F-15 ACTIVE program
s/n 71-0291 does seem kind of off since it was an F-15E prototype and i dont think it ever had the TVC, image probably fake
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