Sukhoi Su-27/30/33/35/37 Flanker series & Su-34 Fullback - History, Design, Performance & Dissection (Part 2)

[kizvy]

@Panther2995

Al-37 engines which 37 produced more thrust.

nah al37 never existed, su37 used prototype al31fp

[Panther2995]

@kizvy

nah al37 never existed, su37 used prototype al31fp

You sure because I can swear Sukhoi bureau used Al-37 engines after certain time which was basically the initial version of Al-41’s in terms of capabilities.

[noister]

@GitGood

Probably wrong data. Su-27M is almost as heavy as Su-35S, has more drag, less powerful engines and it’s somehow faster?

Erm the al41f1 su27m is arguably faster as it give 500kgf more thrust per engine, and is 500kg lighter

[kizvy]

nah al37 ended up never being installed on su37

@Panther2995

Al-37 engines after certain time which was basically the initial version of Al-41’s in terms of capabilities.

you might be confusing it for the su-27m bort 710 which tested both al41f1s of su-35 and su-57 al41f1

[GitGood]

@Panther2995

You sure because I can swear Sukhoi bureau used Al-37 engines after certain time which was basically the initial version of Al-41’s in terms of capabilities.

Nope, only a single book ever mentiones AL-37. Data from AL-37 development was used in development of AL-41F1 this is true, but AL-37 was never built

[GitGood]

@noister

Erm the al41f1 su27m is arguably faster as it give 500kgf more thrust per engine, and is 500kg lighter

Let’s not count flying laboratories, we are talking about production versions or how production version would’ve look like.

[noister]

Man i want bort 710 (al41f1)so badly…

Would be 14.0 arguably

[kizvy]

but yeah, at high altitude its limited only because of the temperature of the engine. It could easily go faster if it wasn’t for that. Similar to mig-25

[Panther2995]

@kizvy

nah al37 ended up never being installed on su37

Can be it that some sources accidently calls AL-31FP engines as AL-37 or was it just misinformation at all?

[kizvy]

@Panther2995

Can be it that some sources accidently calls AL-31FP engines as AL-37 or was it just misinformation at all?

that too, but originally it was that al-37 was supposed to eventually be installed on it, but it never came to be and was refitted with standard al31f engines eventually

[GitGood]

@Panther2995

Can be it that some sources accidently calls AL-31FP engines as AL-37 or was it just misinformation at all?

Misinformation. Su-37 was never re-engined outside of getting it’s original AL-31F engines

[noister]

Virgin su37 vs chad t10m 710

[kizvy]

muh thrust.
What’s funny is that it could either get su-35s engines (izd 117s) or su-57 engines (izd 117).
It tested both

[GitGood]

Su-37 had different FBW system that allowed fro greater maneuverability. In WT this is a no-factor but IRL difference would be quite significant

[Panther2995]

@kizvy

but originally it was that al-37 was supposed to eventually be installed on it,

I think this where i got confused cause i remembered that at some point they installed AL-37 on Su37, guess i remember it wrong.

Thanks the information.

[fwp88]

There’s just so many… Way more than SM1’s back before the update.

On many occasions playing JP/FR/GB more than 2/3’s of my frags are just SM2. I, in fact, did count. Before the update it was pretty even split of flankers/EFs/f15s/f18s.

[noister]

But what matters in game is the more thrust and lighter weight of the other plen :D

[noister]

117* :p

[kizvy]

at least with su-27m its confirmed that it would’ve gotten l-150 had it gone into production, while other planes like 90s mig-29m would’ve likely used spo-15t (digitalized spo15)

[GitGood]

@fwp88

There’s just so many… Way more than SM1’s back before the update.

Flavour of the month aah aircraft. As soon as we get something with better kit (unless Gaijin will pull Rafale 2.0 move but with a Flanker) they will dwindle in numbers massively