Sukhoi Su-27/30/33/35/37 Flanker series & Su-34 Fullback - History, Design, Performance & Dissection (Part 2)

really? i mostly see 13.3 lobbies

Yea I tried couple times during my SM2 grind, wasn’t funny.

Honestly when a plane is incredibly strong it often becomes boring to play.

I had the same with the Rafale the past year. Sure it was fun to play for a couple games per day, but after that it became boring as there was barely any skill/effort involved to do well in it.

I have played my Jaguar IS for a couple games and I didn’t notice the 25 that much.

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Does the flanker win vs gripen 1 vs 1?

Hope not as theres not going to be much left to.play at this point

Mig25 has killed 10.7- 11.7.
Flankers have made all non fox 3 16s useless.

Damn, i liked the game a month ago

Every game is lasting way too.long as they just fly the edge of space.

Try a jet with no k band RWR- No warning, just boom. Special mention to.the worst premium in the game Kfir… that also doesnt get a radar. Deffo deserves 11.0 though as can bomb bases good- this also fake news.

Survive and its 30 mims time out game.

Easily the worst WT has been in.the year iv played.

not with equally skilled pilots

Phew. All i wanted to hear.

The 13.0 grippy lives on.
RIP all non fox 3 f16s. Games gone full…

Well I haven’t touched my Mirage IIIC in a few days, reading that I’m a bit scared now… Can you evade by flying low?

Enemy flying low is the MiG-25 worst nightmare, it overspeeds past 1200kmh, it has no gun to engage, it is as hot as the sun so IR missiles are gonna track you down like an Aim-9X, its radar picks up only ground clutter because MTI is not a radar mode that you can manually switch.

The only way it can kill you is with an R-60M or a sneak up attack with the R-40TD’s. (R-40RD’s too ofc, but those are best used at high alt in the early game imo)

The MiG is not a bad aircraft by any means, and if played to its strengths it’s very annoying, but it isn’t a turbo death machine like some people make it out to be.

Last night i was sick.of playing 30 min games vs 25s and i actually dusted off the mirage for first time in a while.

1st game- mig 25s… cant get away from them. Multipath doesnt save you either as they have some long range IR missile.

Dont think people realise how grim the game is now.
Planes that are only good flying high are dead. Planes blind to K bamd which is many RIP. Planes with no or few flares- might as well J out.

So you have to play 12.3 to avoid 25s which faces cracked flankers with god tier FMs, while you have 6 x 9Ls😁

Dunno man i loved the game last week. Now its a steamy POS

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Interesting how everyone claimed the MiG-25 was gonna be terrible and it turned out to be cancer

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Because it’s horrifically over performing.
I wonder why, being able to pull more gsthan is physically possible in terms of available g load, not even taking into structural limit.
Not to mention acceleration and sustained turn rate over performing

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Russian bias is real with this one xD
More seriously I’m not surprised, it not like it’s the first poorly modeled plane in the game

It pulls more than 11Gs in-game?

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show me proof that its structual limit was 11gs in service. Highest I’ve found was 5.7

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Youre acting like gripen isnt massively overperforming. The only reason it hasnt been nerfed to its actual irl flight model because thats all it actually has ingame. The jet is over hyped, the accepted bug report has been waiting months for being implemented.

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Cant wait for 16 vs 16 flanker games…
Flanker was good as it was. Dont care about real life when we now have a jet with best missiles, one of fastest, god tier fm when it inadvertently kills 5+ F16s on the way. No need at all and little thought for gameplay.

Meanwhile we have mig 29 the most asked for buff being ignored. Harriers, Tornado,…list is endless.

Grippy and F2 is all thats left in the flankers way…so wouldn’t surprise if it did get nerfed. F2 sales and all that…

The F-2 is actually massively underperforming at high speed atm, so if that gets fixed Flankers probably wouldn’t ever have a chance against an F-2.

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Good times when it actually worked in dogfights.

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I remember doing wonders using it with the SU-25BM a couple of years ago.