Sukhoi Su-27/30/33/35/37 Flanker series & Su-34 Fullback - History, Design, Performance & Dissection (Part 2)

that is from a patent showing all the symbology at once for everything

be it navigation, a2a or a2g

thats why it looks how it looks

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After playing out Su-27SM for a while, compared to my experience playing J-11B, I feel Su-27SM so much better than the J-11B despite Su-27SM don’t have MAW, less scanzone, and worser Fox 3, heavier 200kg compared to J-11B.

Anyone feel the same?

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I haven’t played 11B but Su-27SM nowadays is incredibly competent aircraft for its battle rating.

is there any plans/was there any plans for the chinese Su-30MKK/MK2s to refitted with the WS-10A/B?

Ngl I read this as “Wasabi” at first

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Tbh at this point is better to wait for J-16 or later variant of J-15 than hoping export Flankers got more of Chinese tech

More su30sm2s for Belarus
Also original post has more cool photos

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Yeah, it’s actually one of the best 13.7, I think only in the second place before Gripen.

But, from my experience at least, 11B feel lackluster to me, probably due to how borderline useless PL-8B at close quarter compared to R-73, I really wish there’s an option to carry PL-5EII instead tbh.

What makes you think it would have limited stealth?

Well it isn’t as stealthy as it’s rivals so in terms of F-22/35 and J-20 it is behind in Stealth technology.
The IRST on the front of the Su-57 is a no go for jets trying to reduce RCS.

and the relatively small IRST will majorly affect the RCS?

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IIRC isn’t there a patent or something out there comparing its RCS to the Eurofighter and the Eurofighter has a smaller RCS than it or am I misremembering

In terms of stealth it does, it’ can reflect radar waves back as it is not a controlled surface.

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Honestly I am not sure bud

Can assure you, all comp(tourney) players will also tell you the same. Su27sm is better than the J-11B because.

  1. R-77s turn more, much more
  2. You get 8xR-77s than 6xpl-12s
  3. A flanker flight model requires R-73s at this point, so even if J-11B has like a 1% better fm, it wont matter cuz it doesnt have R-73s
  4. Radar in air rb doesnt matter, when you can usually use HMS, and thats how you play most jets anyway, on top of that most skilled players can easily use 27sm’s radar.
  5. ERs are still relatively important(even in tournaments 27sm with R-27ERs, is heavily used) which J-11B lacks, or the occasional ET.
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Blows my mind they don’t limit payloads in tournies.

In what world is it fair the Su-27 can bring 10/12 missiles but the competition can bring a max of 8

So dumb

Hornets(late C) do exist in the tourneys, iirc. 12 missiles. The only 14.0s are Hornets or F-15E variants tho in tourneys. 4v4s/air superiority tournament which is what the most popular and part of esports main major every year.

So su27sm with 12 missile isnt the only jet.

Yet Su-27 has the best FM compared to the F-15E and the Hornet. And they both use 120s which we know are the worst ARHM in game.

It wouldn’t be the meta choice if it was balanced

How are you balancing anything tho?

Again, the flanker fm is better for high altitudes going fast, if dogfights are consider the hornet wins against the flankers which happens alot, gripens hornets, J-10s smack it. But also hornets gets 2 more fox3s in total(10 vs 8 for the 27sm) than the flanker which is kinda justified for the lack of performance.
Mirages with mica ems used to be in it but then got removed which were far more deadly than a 27sm.

it very much is a controlled surface

why do you think it has a cover

IRST opened:

image

IRST closed:

image

and the cover is treated with RAM coating as well

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