Sukhoi Su-27/30/33/35/37 Flanker series & Su-34 Fullback - History, Design, Performance & Dissection (Part 2)

So they removed Mirages because MICA was too good but allowed Su-27s to have the 3 best missiles at that level.

R-27ER, R-77 and R-73. Hornets are trash they don’t accelerate they dont hold energy and they carry the 120 or the 9M. I could see the Gripen being good in some kind of memey way with trhe R-Darter but in terms of longevity the Gripen has 6 missiles.

To balance it you need to assign a points system to each airframe and each missile.
That way you prevent the inevitable teams of just Su-27s

Shape is the real issue you spend all this time using angles to prevent Radar returns then you put that bulbous mount on the front of the airframe. A cover will work to an extent but as soon as the 57 goes into combat it will want the data from the IRST system and the Radars

Some liked it some disliked it, cant really say much

Meta jets are flankers, gripens, J-10A, (F-2 sometimes) before it was all mirages & gripens w 1 flanker.

Teams usually are 2 gripens & 2 flankers or 2 J-10A/2flanker etc. you do end up needing a flight model that can dogfight, because most maps are either flat or have enough terrain to allow most teams to rip apart jets with poor dogfighting fm.

Mirages were removed cuz teams sometimes ran 4 mirages or 3 mirages 1 flanker. Now its a bit more balanced

Pro players know how to flare R-73s n chaff R-77s any day cuz none of them have a busted seeker respectively. While yes they are better, the game just has good mechanics to keep them limited, and if there is an ER on the way, just fire back an arh and the jet has to drop the lock.

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any IRST will not be of much use at long range

it only is of use at closer ranges at mid to close ranges where it is able to provide a weapons grade lock
or for WVR/ dogfights thats most likely why it is ontop of the nose instead of the bottom to have better positive elevation for dogfights

unlike the F-35 or even Mig-23 where they have little use in WVR due to their positioning

especially in the Mig-23 it was used to help the radar in look down but then on the Mig-29/ Su-27 it was put on top to provide better angles for closer ranges

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See, Normally I’d agree. But in actuality we know SO LITTLE about what they can actually do that Gaijin’s probably just gonna make up everything, and toss in everything they can find a source for.

So, IRST, HMD, and more for the F-22
And probably an upgraded HMD for the Su-57.

It’s not “F-22 should be better” It’s “F-22 is probably better irl”.

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I can’t argue with that, if the map sizes remain the same the Radars we have in game now will be able to still detect Stealth aircraft.

Yeah, I think that the most important thing if they end up adding 5th gens like the Felon and Raptor is increasing the map size.

Then again, making a furball in the city map with F-22s and Su-57s does sound fun.

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10 years of wait for 5th gens just to have them spotted by the air RB marker
dead-skeleton

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I can’t wait for gaijin to use the T-50 patent to model the Su-57’s stealth.

It’ll be like a radar flashbang.

the Su-57 wouldnt have an issue with the current map sizes

its the F-22, F-35, J-20 and J-35 that would heavily suffer

How far back can the Su-57 side radars look tho? Compared to the IRBIS.

Anyway if we DO get the Felon soon are there any camos you guys would wanna see?

Personally I quite like these two.
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The first is a T-50 but I do not care.

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OIP

The prettiest one

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We need to force Russian naval aviation to buy one Su-57 so we can have their livery in-game. Gaijin probably wash it as if Su-57 was at least 20 years in service tho.

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French Bias was real all along. But gaijin should’ve instead given more aircrafts detailed damage models instead of this very inconsistent mechanic.

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Looks like I’m gonna use Wt Live skin when it comes.

Knowing Gaijin they’re gonna butcher in game camos.

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13.0 Flanker is pretty good right now it seems, haven’t seen a lot of full uptiers, and 13.3 Fox-3 slingers are manageable. Notching with SPO-15 is easier than i was expecting tbh

Meanwhile I got stuck in 13.7-14.0MM with my F-2 ADTW.

Despite having AESA radar,better Rwr I prefer Su-27 in this meta.

Nothing beats good ol’ R-27ER to the face. You can slap ERs on anyrhing and it will make the plane goated