That’s been done since the 50s, the efficient supersonic cruise is not what the Eurofighter is accomplishing.
That’s not true.
It isn’t needed for parity, it is superior in dogfight range
No they were not, it was designated FGFA and shared very little with the production Su-57.
And? Supercruise was first coined as a term in the '50s. What are you trying to say by this?
You saying it’s not true isn’t true.
How’s that?
The R-74M2 is superior in range to the ASRAAM? How so?
Not once as Aero India '24 was FGFA mentioned, as it as a whole was cancelled. Zip. It quite literally does not exist.
You can deny reality all you want, but a ftot order was made for the Su-57’s N036 as well as a direct offer of initial production Su-57s.
SM2 integrates most of the Su-35 system too. I wonder if it includes the RAM, cause afaik the MAWS wasn’t included (or not yet anyways)
The definition has shifted, as things do. The F-22 is actually cruising, the Eurofighter is only “cruising” when compared to the fuel burn rate in AB.
Well, obviously I said it wasn’t true or everyone wouldn’t be able to see that I said it. What you said is totally unsourced nonsense.
That’s not what I said, quit trolling.
When people leave a project before it passes early stages it tends to just not exist, yeah.
EF can reach mach without afterburner = supercruise
stop that shit you already got clowned on in the EF thread for that
ATM. Only some country like Quatar has AESA radar on their typhoons. These being early variant which would mean low “Quality” T/M. Germany would be the early nations on warthunder to get AESA on their Typhoons. But these AESA radar are not ready and at the start of this year it was still being tested on an Airliner.
That its now. He was talking about the past. Before India even “leave” the project. So technically both are correct?
Yea and Su-35s its suppose to get a new update this year. But we don’t know what update will be. I just hope its not just a software update to use new R-77M missile or something in that line.
@Qu_Rahn posted this Is the Su-57 really worse than the F-22? - #1182 by Qu_Rahn the other day. Idk if old info and thing change with time. But even the F-22 supercruising have its caveats.
wont change anything for WT tho
gaijin will add the aesa typhoons with the meteor or IRIS-T/ASRAAM so we have to grind more
Right now? yeah i does nothing. If gaijin do modele it correct in the future it would mean less range. But the points still stand. No Nations with Typhoon in game has AESA radar installed on them. In the Future when Germany finally start producing that AESA it could be installed on the Quadriga Eurofighters.
In what way is the Eurofighter unable to “cruise” above mach at mil power? It’s more than able to do such, and has shown to do it as well.
Can’t quite site a 2J here.
What is?
FGFA has no relation to the Su-57, nor does it exist. Get back on topic.
And I clearly stated Aero India 24, at which India was directly invited to contract Su-57 deliveries.
If he does mean prior to such, he’s failed to clarify.
What update?
Probably MLUs that just gives better lifetime/hours to the airframe. Unless Russia finally figured out a cheap way to make AESA which would honestly be a possibility since they started equipping pantsirs with AESAs now
No one was clowned, Eurofighter mains can’t accept that their version of supercruise shares no parity with the F-22. Instead they continue to push that the Eurofighter has similar or better kinematics to Sukhois which is laughable.
Repeating what you said after I debunked the nonsense is poor argument practice
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actually, funds were allocated for it in 2024. it is NOT cancelled
FGFA was a 2 seater derivative of su-57 for IAF use, however it never left the blueprints iirc
You haven’t “debunked” a single thing I’ve said, try again.
Where have you seen that?
That’s PMF, not FGFA. It is quite literally a T-50.
At the very least you should hold basic understanding of the imagery you post.
The only info about it.
IMO the best options should be that they change Everything. AL-41 for 177c. Update IRBIS with some cheap GaAs something like what Indian did with BARS and the new Virupaksha AESA Radar. Its not like they don’t have GaN tech. The Phazotron FGA-35 was GaN based And that thing its already like 10yo and was powerful for a small jet like mig35. Change the old and bulky Baguette computer for the new IMA BK on su-57. So it now can use Fiber optic instead of FBW…etc.
Man even half of these change would be really good. Also all of them reduce the weight of the jet.
