Sukhoi Su-27/30/33/35/37 Flanker series & Su-34 Fullback - History, Design, Performance & Dissection (Part 2)

Repeating what you said after I debunked the nonsense is poor argument practice


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Its the same picture haha

actually, funds were allocated for it in 2024. it is NOT cancelled

FGFA was a 2 seater derivative of su-57 for IAF use, however it never left the blueprints iirc

You haven’t “debunked” a single thing I’ve said, try again.

Where have you seen that?

That’s PMF, not FGFA. It is quite literally a T-50.

At the very least you should hold basic understanding of the imagery you post.

The only info about it.

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IMO the best options should be that they change Everything. AL-41 for 177c. Update IRBIS with some cheap GaAs something like what Indian did with BARS and the new Virupaksha AESA Radar. Its not like they don’t have GaN tech. The Phazotron FGA-35 was GaN based And that thing its already like 10yo and was powerful for a small jet like mig35. Change the old and bulky Baguette computer for the new IMA BK on su-57. So it now can use Fiber optic instead of FBW…etc.

Man even half of these change would be really good. Also all of them reduce the weight of the jet.

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“Anybody that disagrees with me or says anything I don’t agree with is a troll!!1!”

Classic MiG-23M sentiment.
Either extrapolate or substantiate.

When interactions like:

Gets met with:

The only thing people can take you as is a hypocritical idiot.

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Oh, Checkmate (aka Su-75) mentioned

177c?

But 177S is AL-41, well more rather the one on the Su-57/S-70 drone not the cheaper versions on the Su-35/30SM2

Nvm I was thinking of the 117S. Apparently 177S incorporates AL-51 stuff to the AL-41. That engine ain’t getting mlunted anytime soon though since it’s new development

Yea they talked about finally building two units for test.

Not really and AL-41F-1S/117s engine but an AL-31 with new Manufacturing methods and stuff from AL-51. It a 14500 tons engine. With 6000h lifespan and Less fuel consumption. While Al-41F-1s its 14000tons with 4000h and few mm large in diameter…

33:56 on the video its from AEROINDIA this year.

There’s no way in hell this is an AL-31F. Even the AL-31FN-5 showed directly next to both the supposed 177S and 41F-1S in India differed GREATLY visually, let alone what differences may arise in distinct modules themselves.

At the very most the '177S could be an upgrade on the '117S, though that brings into question what needed to happen to attach a Kuznetsov style IFM to a Lyulka core…

No engine is able to produce over 14k “tons” of thrust.

Vodka - alien tech lmao. But jokes aside. He meant probably 14 tonnes - force (~140 kN).

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Virupaksha is a powerfull radar with 2400 T/R modules, probably the most powerfull radar placed on a fighter jet. Other than that it is equipped GaN modules. It also has horizontal steering for good coverage. It may be the best radar on a fighter jet once su30mki are equipped with it.

Well 2400 T/R isn’t that far ahead, considering we don’t know about the config on j20, J35, F35 or F22 (new radars). Even certain other 4th gens are known to have a load of T/R modules. APG81 has allegedly around 1600 T/R modules.

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At transonic speeds and higher altitudes I wouldn’t be afraid to say the EF is equal to or better than a modern Sukhoi. The EF wasn’t built for low speeds and for post stall maneuvering, you can’t have everything. The designers preferred energetic maneuvering, higher speeds and higher altitudes.

Well if they apply AL41 to Su35 the jet will be 34 tonnes of max take off weight vs potentially 35 tonnes of thrust. Vs 23 tonne to 18 tonne for EF.