Sukhoi Company Su-57 Felon - Russia's Stealth Apex Predator

I take it you didn’t actually look at the specs in its entirety. Comparing it to a Su-30SM is wild.

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Almost as if the bell maneuver was all it could do

ha-smirk

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In real life, this comparison would be ridiculous, but we’re dealing with a game and despite all the “realism” claims, it’s very arcadey. Because of this arcade nature, the gameplay difference between the Su-30SM and the Su-57 is minimal.

With this logic then the F-15 isn’t much different from the F-22 and F-35

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Wow, nice, so our Su-57 will have no gameplay difference from the Su-30SM? Wait, how does that even work?

No matter what radar you have, no matter the flight model, the R-77/R-77-1 won’t stop being one of the worst ARH missiles in long rage.

± Yes, this also concerns them, especially the F-22.

The Su-57 has much more modern weaponry, much different than what we see in game now. It also has a LDIRCM which gives it the ability to completely ignore x2 Fox-2 missiles being fired at it, it has stealth properties, maybe this blew past your head at Mach 10 idk.

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yes it will because it is limited in its loadout options and cant carry as many missiles at once

good thing the the Felon uses the r-77m and r-37m instead

and last time i checked long range shots dont matter ingame and missiles with higher amounts of pull are favoured (e.g. MICA and r-77)

and ontop of that you are talking alot about the meta at top tier without even having any rank 8 plane

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Exactly lol, whole BVR/Aim-120 phase of the match lasts about 2 minutes.

It’s not like the r-77-1 is a bad missile for bvr, it’s roughly on par with aim 120a and is only worse than aim-120c5 in terms of range, while having better better time to target than either amraam model.
they can simply add su-57 with 6x external r-77-1 missiles if they don’t want to give it r-77m
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i’ve never seen someone claim this, it’s 4 only


f-22 also gets a hilarious amount of double pylons on its outer pylons

Each is rated for 5,000lb too iirc, I wonder what the Su-57’s are rated for

only bad thing about su-57 is probably its horrendous top speed sea level, worse than rafale

this confirms the max of 4 internal r77 missiles


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Wow, only 7.8km max range? /s

16,500lb payload is surprisingly low. For reference the F-35 has an 18,000lb payload and Su-35 is 17,630lb

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it carries the same amount of missiles of irl su-30sm, kinda goofy how all flankers for some reason get the double pylons

MTOW is way higher on the Su-57 and so is empty weight

wait im slow yeah you’re right, I read the wrong thing.

su-57 looks like f-35 equivalent (although still better than it for wt, kh38s will carry it for ground and for arb the fm is much better for turning) and then su-57m will be f-22 equivalent, although f-22 will be superior in terms of number of missiles and su-57m would dominate it wvr probably. kinda hilarous how the us made the f-22 in the mid 90s

Looking at the most recent F-35 info. The Su-57 has only 5nmi greater combat range, higher ceiling (but Ive heard some 60,000 or slightly more claims for the F-35), higher top speed, better supercruise, better empty TWR (1.61 vs 1.47), but worse payload and probably harder to maintain due to being twin engine and not as mature