Sukhoi Company Su-57 Felon - Russia's Stealth Apex Predator

late model AIM-120’s and 9X b2 have 2 way DL and GPS assisted guidance which would largely negate LDIRCM and MP

Currently ldircm completely counter imaging seeker heads (see aim 9x blk 2 being completely countered by mi28 and z10me)

hopefully this will be fixed as they should resort to their DL in that case

According to them it’s not a bug and working as intended.
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LDIRCM sure but with 9X block 2 it should be able to resort to DL if there is a radar lock

DL would be a neat feature, don’t know entire specifics of it though.


DL is not percise enough to guid in a missile fully, thats why missiles have DL only as a secondary guidance type and not as a primary one

As much as I love Berkut (to the point of having scale model of it)… it chances to appear are extremely slim

Isn’t it just sending the target information gained from another source like the radar to the missile? Maybe on really old ones but modern DL can do precision work just fine

Personally I’m more surprised inertial navigation doesn’t make it hit the target, feel like for helicopters ins should be extremely strong just because how slow they are. Planes it makes sense ins not working as well, but slow as hell helicopters?

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it cant, if it could we would see missiles that only use DL instead of expensive IIR or aesa seekers

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Fire and forget, there are surely other reasons why they keep seekers on missiles

Okay seems like you need 0 flares for su-57 if gaijin keeps the current implementation for ldircm… however if they don’t add ecm, 40ish cms is fatale, with most 5th gens of all nations carrying 10+ radar missiles, you’re gonna need a lot more chaff. F-22 especially that thing carries a ridiculous amount of missiles, most missiles of any 5th gen

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you yoursef dont need a lock on the target

you can have ground radars or AWACS guide it in

becuase DL is not perciese enough, if it was they would have atleast tried to make a DL only missile

What do you think they are going to do with CCA’s launching missiles? It’s already been proven that guided munitions can successfully use datalink

It can use datalink but it probably isn’t accurate. Datalink doesn’t seem to be something you use as a primary guidance system but something the weapon falls back onto as a last ditch effort.

so a SAM missile has DL as a guidance option wow

and how does that cange anything?
you just said: “but this missile has DL”
that isnt disproving anything

DL has a delay due to the nature of how it works

you need some radar to send out radiation and wait for it to bounce back
then you need to send that information to your missile

and if your missile is close to your radar target it will recieve the target position from the last radar scan
which is not where the target currently is

It’s literally the speed of light, and with -ESA any delay is very minimal

If you (or anyone else) don’t mind explaining/summarising, since I’m not deeply familiar with modern technology, what is the RCS of the Su-57 compared to other stealth fighters? (On a serious note)

And how do its radar systems and overall combat capabilities compare to those of its competitor stealth aircraft?

I swear its secret documents were leaked sometime ago already, or was it fake news?