Subject: PL-12 series missiles need a mobility buff

also kinda an unnecessary thread as there are like 2-3 other threads that show the PL-12 being utter garbage now

yea your right let me make a new one:


AAM-4 right next to PL-12 just a bit faster it seems

totally only put pulling aim120 this PL-12 is low key underratted

lowkey can sparrow roll every other missile in a 6km head just like the Pl-12 trust

Spoiler

and lowkey statshark isnt accurate

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if stat shark isn’t accurate which I’m not saying it is then players should stop using it for stats and no I have 0 experience with it being sparrow rolled

i sure wonder why you dont.

Also check the videos in this thread if you dont believe me

like this has been discussed over and over, and this is not the first thread

yea like some random noob in a su30 premuim is going to do a sparrow roll the video fox-3 posted was a head on not a real BVR with clouds and rwr screaming its not only about the missile its also about knowing when to fire it and what missile to fire so no some goffy ahh sparrow isnt dodging me

does a real pilot fire just because they got a lock on enemy the quick answer is no they have to find the perfect timing to fire a 10 million dollar missile that could miss its the same with war thunder they may not be as expenisve but the are just as important if there isn’t 1 guy left in the game why are you spamming 3 pl12s instead of a PL-12 and a r-73 its simple guys really

gamerino can “sparrow roll and notch” any incoming missile but what does that prove? it proves people just launch anything at anything doing anything why would I launch at a target going away from me? why would I launch a PL-12 in a headon instead of r77? why would I try to be in a headon In the fire place? why would I spamm 3 missiles at 1 f-14? why would I try to outturn a f-16? why would I be in dogfight with a SU30? why would I fire a aim7P in the BVR? think guys

Not saying it doesn’t need fixes. But not really. I’d still say that is probably the C5

ngl if its Base PL-12 its a strong contender at top tier as you get the nerfed pull but nothing in return unlike the 12A

and if my bugreport for the SD-10A is gonna affect the PL-12 even less range soon

I can launch a PL-12A at a target 6 miles out in a head-on and he can just turn down and dodge the missile. No a modern fox-3 should in fact not suck this much.

Do name me one actual benefit the PL-12 currently has over literally any other top tier Fox-3, I’m curious.

what do you mean by turn down and dodge and we are forgetting he has about 3 seconds of thoughts before he gets to go to the hanger the benefit is range

btw can you stop having opinions on stuff you barely know anything about considering your whole 2* planes that you own with ARH´s, all of which you are negative in

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womp womp I only own 2 stalking someones stat shark to see what vehicles thay have is weird af anyways you can cry a river I wont care

i checked cause ive seen some of your other posts and wanted to make sure you know what you are talking about…

did all this while wining a SU30 and f16AM 1v2 in a SU30 with r77s so noob may ask why I’m using r77s and not pl12s because In a dogfight you use the best possible missile you have that can pull Gs making back my gambling money -4.5M for boosters and a loading screen but plus 100k SL in that game W

Pl-12 though still outpulls C5s

yes that is true but id argue that the better energy retention and general energy state is better for game play, while PL-12 might have better pull it also shits out its energy way faster + you cant make use of the HOBS that most of the PL-12 slings used to depend on

pl12s underrated and j10 what do you guys want china to be some super nation?