Subject: PL-12 series missiles need a mobility buff

did all this while wining a SU30 and f16AM 1v2 in a SU30 with r77s so noob may ask why I’m using r77s and not pl12s because In a dogfight you use the best possible missile you have that can pull Gs making back my gambling money -4.5M for boosters and a loading screen but plus 100k SL in that game W

Pl-12 though still outpulls C5s

yes that is true but id argue that the better energy retention and general energy state is better for game play, while PL-12 might have better pull it also shits out its energy way faster + you cant make use of the HOBS that most of the PL-12 slings used to depend on

pl12s underrated and j10 what do you guys want china to be some super nation?

i want my missile not to be fucking sparrow rollable?

it doesnt help that the nerf was entirely unsources either

It depends on context .

With most fights being sub 15km anyway, I would say at best they are equal, if not the Pl12 holds a small advantage

id say equal

i think its best to say that you would have feel the diff between pre nerf and post nerf PL-12, youd have to experience it

but i can tell you ive missed shots that i shouldve hit and so on (or the old PL-12 wouldve hit)

its not sparrow rollable idc about the pictures and videos fox3 posted its just in a test lab but in real gamplay they work just fine


pl12a after the nerf
first shot missed on a rear aspect
last shot went over the rafale in a head on
a sparrow wouldnt miss like that for your information

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C5 is in a better place than the pl12 and the C5 actually reaches the target unlike the pl12

It’s a jack of all trades if it in the way it is kinda mediocre/bad at everything it does, unlike before Gaijin murdered it where it was one of the best missiles in the game.

Yes it is.