Su30SM is underwhelming

Yeah, the problem here and the pattern i realized is that you struggle at almost everything you play, then you come here and necropost half the time saying some crazy takes like


I would like to see a clip from this, bc unless your launchs are the worst i dont believe it.

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Yeah, the problem here and the pattern i realized is that you struggle at almost everything you play, then you come here and necropost half the time saying some crazy takes like

I don’t struggle with many things i complain about, but I can point out they are shit. Getting 4kd on the n1k2 about which i made uncountable threads is not struggling. Getting 3.8kd on the sea fury while making the most whine threads about it is not struggling. Getting 4KD on the f-5E and making posts about how it’s an irrelevant plane and an easy to counter if you know it’s weak points is not struggling, rather the opposite: being knowledged enough calling people out to stop overrating a plane which in many cases they are even shit at.

I would like to see a clip from this, bc unless your launchs are the worst i dont believe it.

I can’t post clip because there was a dawg i met thrice who wouldn’t stop saying the grossest stuff.

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First of all: EF2000 with better closure rate than j11b
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The J11b becomes the one with better closure rate right after flying close to the eurofighter and it dies because the missile switches targets. Which is ironic since it’s got a smaller target iluminator than the radar, and it is closer to the melee than I was when the switch happened.


Match after I launch an r77-1 at an f-18 flying towards me from 14km away The missile completely missed. Then I launched an r77-1 at a Rafale flying above me, the missile missed despite having a perfect launch in range from 6km away and on a target flying above after I flew past, while a Mica did a 230 degree on me. I have no clip from that.

They really aren’t even close to second best. Not on that platform. Maybe on the faster ones, sure, but not on su 30 sm.

At this point with how useless 77-1s are on Su 30, I carry R27ERs on pylons that aren’t laden with air to ground. It is a good platform, but it is not what I would put at 14.3, especially not when the direct competitor to it is not at the same rating. Whilst it lacks the radar of Su 30, the F15E has far more reliable ARHs from my discussions with peers.

Out of curiosity, which fox3s besides the mica are better in your opinion? Because Aim120s are borderline useless outside of high range BVR jousting

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Whats better?

At max range slinging fest. Sure C5s are the best (though just as easy to defend against)

but at more normal ranges. They pull harder and have a better time to target than most other ARHs. The only exception is the MICA.

but imo they are better than the Aim-120A/B, R-Darter, Derby and I think PL-12s. (even C5s in all but the most favourable shots for it)

the only one im not sure about is AAM-4

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Its also better than the AAM-4

launching into a dogfight has got to be a dumb thing to do with a missile that has a seekerhead that you can’t control. Ofc something like an r-27er would be much better in this situation because you can actually control that missile. That’s not the missile’s fault, that’s just a bad launch.
Whoops sorry i replied to you morvran lol, wrong person

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No worries, easily done

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120s connect more reliably in my experience and the experience of my peers. 77-1 just isn’t worth loosing 90% of the time. I would put them behind 120s, given my experience. Friends who engage with A2A more than I also report they feel better to use. I don’t enjoy either of them, give me MICA on a strike mirage any day please, but having screwed with them on strike platforms they often just aren’t worth the pylon if the pylon can carry an ER or air to ground.

Every FOX-3 has the same seeker except MICA, 0 difference between AIM-120 and R-77/-1

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And if I were talking about the seeker, I would have mentioned the seeker.

The number of times i’ve been forced into the defensive, unable to even fire a single missile because of an Su-30 just spamming missiles at me is kinda insane.

They can be really hard to defend against at shorter ranges. I can usually do 2, maybe 3 before one gets through

What i mean is that both are the same, the only things that can interfere with how reliably a missile connects are:
-The enemy knows how to notch
-How good you launch said missile

Different kinematic performances will, by virtue of necessity, change the reliability and employment criteria. In my experience, the kinematics of the AMRAAM secure more hits than the 77-1. This has been reported by my peers as well. This could be user error, but even in good launches I just don’t find them to be that compelling of an option.

Generally find they’re very easy to bleed of energy in my experience, only aspect I can think of them being a notable portion of my losses is short range head ons, but ER does the same job just as well. I’m just not overly convinced by the 77-1, and only carry 2 of them to force defensive if the need arises. Whereas AMRAAM connects in many circumstances I would expect it not to, has capacity for longer range launches if the opportunity presents, and whilst it may not be ideal at shorter ranges, that shorter range where they become completely useless rarely presents in my experience.

Hopefully that leaked Engine buff will help quite a bit.

It likely won’t change too much, but honestly the TTW is just so doo doo anything is appreciated.

Also I forgot this topic exists but the Su-30SM is the best plane in the game. Since we all know that the looks of a plane makes up like 98% of all performance, and the Flanker-H mogs just about everything.

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Just for that we need F-15EX with 8 AIM-260, 3 JASSM-XR, and 16 GBU-53 with SNIPER XR and Legion pods

AIM-260’s on BOL rails for 1280 BOL + 360 normal CM’s of course

Still lighter than a sukhoi

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nuh uh!!!

0.93 TWR goes hard. I wonder what TWR it will have with full missile bus load.

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