The reason the US mains were mad wasnt because they got the F-15E without the better engines. ( A few i’ve spoken to would have almost prefered that actually, and maybe had the F-15E at a lower BR rather than as the top tier option) They were mad because the Israelis got a multirole F-15 with the upgraded engines and the US did not. It would be like giving the Chinese J-11 better engines but not giving them to the SU-27. Soviet mains would be mad.
Su-30SM seems like a perfectly competitive aircraft at the moment. Is it meta? maybe not. But it has the second best radar at top tier. The greatest compliemnt of AAMs at top tier (both variety and quantity) and a perfectly capable flight performance. Can you dominate every match like the Mig-23 and Mig-29 use to? No, but to call it “uncompetitive” is rather dishonest,
Simple solution: they should not have added the F-15I. But we are way past that already. Most people would not grind a whole tech tree for one plane. I don’t even remember the last time I saw the F-15I, if ever.
J-11B has better engines than the Su-27SM.
As for this, I just checked your in-game profile, and you are a British main with 14 battles in the Typhoon with nothing else researched. How can you even talk about USSR, or USA, or other planes and them being competetive or not when you literally do not have any experience or things to compare them to?
Check the SB tab not the RB tab. I do not play RB all that much.
Also…Bringing up stat cards is just a funny tactic when you have no decent counter argument.
I may not have experience in the Su-30SM. But I sure as hell have fought against R-73, R-27ER, R-27ET and R-77s.
The only real weakness of the Su-27 from my PoV was a bad radar. The Su-30SM not only fixes that issue, but adds a stronger missile. Having spent a year in the Tornado F3 struggling against Mig-29s and then Mig-29SMTs. I know what it truly means to be “uncompetitive”
New update
Russia is getting new top tier jet
Russian mains: “this is gonna change everything it’s gonna be so amazing”
It’s mid
Repeat
(MiG-29SMT, Su-27S/SM, Su-34, Su-30SM, etc)
New update
Russia is getting new top tier jet Russian mains: “this is gonna change everything it’s gonna be so amazing”
NATO mains: “this is gonna change everything it’s going to be so OP and undertiered”
It’s mid
Repeat
(MiG-29SMT, Su-27S/SM, Su-34, Su-30SM, etc)
Su30sm2 with upgraded engines are a year old at best.
I find it pretty irrelevant but i dont really think the su30sm needs the engine’s. Its plenty strong without em. If you think its not competitive its a skill issue
The best i dont think so. I definetly think its more competitive than f15e. F15e only has bvr and bvr isnt very effective. Su30 is fairly good at everything and r77-1 can hit decently far in my little experience
Lmao fr tho, both sides of the isle hype it up. The amount of people saying “gib Aim-120C” when they saw the R-77-1 being added was hilarious. Even funnier when I asked which variant of the C they wanted and they replied with “variants” or “just the regular Aim-120C” lmaooo.
It matters alot. The F-16C has a worse loadout than the Tornado F.3 late, but the F-16 is 0.7 higher. The 11.0 Sea Harrier has 4 Aim-9Ls, and the 12.3 F-16A has only 2 more.
And don’t forget about the F/A-18C late with 10 Aim-120s and 2 9Ms.
F16c is one of the woret 13.7(only beat by shittier f16s) in the game. Its flight perfomance is good, it doesn’t make up for the small loadout. Id rather fly the su27sm over it which is saying alot. R77 isnt great but i have 6 r77s 2 r27ets and 4 r73s. Loadout matters more than perfomance in arb.
Replays are BUGGY as all hell! does not show the proper amount of counters, just like it shows that I still have my AoA limiter on but I pull the crazy AoA because it is off.