Making the point that what you are saying dodnt make sense because f16 is still better even in the cas role. Just because it can do anti-air doesnt mean that you cant compare the two.
Assuming a bad f16 player, yes. If i can deal with them in a harrier, people should be able to ise a f16
Pro tip for the kh38s, to counter ir, have your spaa within like 200m of a wreck or another vehicle. For the laser ones, the su25 has to fly into range as they have to point at you the whole time. And they can dodge much as the laser wont lock until they are within about 8km
All AGMs have a lock on range of 12km. (though KH-38s and a few others like PGMs can hit a static target out to 20km, if the game will let you)
Pantsir has an effective range of 12-15km and a max range of 18km (iirc). Something like the ADATS is effective range of 7-8km and a max range of 10km. Even under ideal conditions any AGM can out range most nations top tier SAM, such as the US. Except the Soviets. They can out range any CAS. The one weakness they had was the lack of a decent F&F AGM at top tier. They now have that, and on top of that, its the best.
Just need every nation to get a Pantsir equivalent SAM, like the SP-AMRAAM HUMVEE or the Supercat HVM ASRAAM slinger and then maybe AGM upgrades where appropriate. Even if thats just giving AGM-65 a little buff. Should be able to lock on out to 20km but limited to 12km by game mechanics. (maybe 14km would be a fair buff?)
Yes when you know about them. Unless your using some system we dont know about that notifies you they are gonna hit, because LWS doesnt let you know due to them not using a laser
The IOG on the KH-38s can still allow a hit to occur. AGM-65 would just self-destruct. its small, but notable advantage. Especially as not enough SAMs even have Smoke.
even a br9.0 fighter with 2 braincells can destroy a su25, you are the typical entitled american that wants everthing that is nos US to be nerfed cose america fuc yeah
Just got killed by one of these 40km ATGMs in my Flarak. No chance. its just easymode to have that much surplus range to all NATO AA systems. Just had a match where several spawned, turned around and climbed up far outside radar and SAM range. They hammered most of the team to death. Two F-16 guys going for them where shot down by Pantsirs. Pantsir creates a safe space within enemy map half…no one can do anything there.
Pretty much the only thing you can do is use aircraft to counter them until Gaijin adds vehicles like the Land Ceptor and SPYDER AIO. For example, I enjoy playing Japan but the only thing I can do is spawn in my F-15J(M) to shoot them down, there goes 600+ spawn points which is worthless if I get shot down by some Pantsir or another aircraft. Japan has no other capability to bring them down until the Type 81 (C) gets its ARH missiles and its pretty frustrating to have a KH-38 in-bound in open spawn maps with nothing to do.
If they hate the SM3 that much then they can always drop down to 11.3. A pure ground lineup can only ever encounter the SM3 in a completely full uptier. Taking just one step back puts you entirely out of matchmaking range. The majority of people facing off against the SM3 on a regular basis are people whose lineups are BR 12.0+ due to the aircraft on their lineups.