Very good work here, thank you for your effort.
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@InterFleet I know you as a very attentive and responsive staff member. Could you please give a comment on my research. I don’t want to waste my time writing all this text as a bug report if it is useless.
Can you confirm that the angles of view and zoom of thermal imaging scopes/night sights use these parameters from day sights, if any (any helicopter/airplane/tank). The closest example is Mercury on Su-25T and Su-39, I checked personally: angles and zoom are the same with and without it.
Similarly, I would like your comment about determining the quality of thermal imager by the screen in the cockpit (if it is known, otherwise other parameters are taken) . Can you check with the developer? This information was told to me by @MiG_23M, referring to the fact that he was informed about it by the developer
Its 100% equals
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It hasn’t been clear whether or not they are going off information about the thermals or the screen, however for bug reports on tank thermals they have used screen resolution as the determining factor.
Thank you. I believe that based on such rules, my text above fully defines the parameters of the thermal imager for Su-39
However, I’m really looking forward to hearing @InterFleet commentary
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I second that, it is insanely idiotic that the USSR does not have a single aircraft with thermal imaging, let alone infrared munitions with screen viewing.
Other nations have had this for a very long time.
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@_David_Bowie Maybe you can give a comment? As far as I remember, you were the one who talked about what principles apply to determining the zoom of helicopter sights.
Will you be able to suggest the information that I asked above and make your comment on this topic, please
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Magnification uses only the value of the daytime sight, value from Thermal/NVDs are not considered.
Do note that this was about to change this patch but was so far held back so I wouldn’t rely on it that match
Thanks, sir. Can you also comment on the choice of quality of thermal imaging cameras. Is the quality of the cockpit display really an advantage if it is known?
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I did a report with the info from this thread and all my sources
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/dhVGrPlRONxv
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I.e. I made enough arguments and the topic wasn’t even moved to acknowledged status?
Is he only expressing his opinion or what?
“I just want the USSR to be without thermal imaging.”
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its probably dev words i guess
In that case, he should move the report to acknowledged status to confirm that he agrees with the arguments and there are enough of them, but the developers just don’t want to
TrickZZter Gave me an answer on the Russian forum, I used a translator to send it here. Move is Khod because of translator’s mistake (in Russian Khod=Move).
So the developers opinion - they don’t want to add thermal imager for su-39 and su-25t. Apparently the ussr should not be able to fly at all in half of the matches when the weather is bad.
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Never played the SU39 or probably will, but I have to say, I have yet to come across a post I had more enjoyment reading.
Great job and effort :).
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So in effect they recognized that the facts I described allow for adding thermal imaging to the game, but they just don’t want to
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Thank you. My biggest disappointment is that when I called the Sukhoi OKB museum to come to them I was refused, saying that they only accept special guests. It’s as if they don’t care about ordinary people at all.
I asked for mail to ask a question, but even that was refused. They basically don’t care about their history.
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I created a suggestion on the Ru forum, where I listed the airplanes with thermal imagers. Please vote. It’s the least I can do.
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This is one of the best and most thorough posts I’ve seen on a niche topic on this forum. I would love to see this added to the outstanding and interesting Su-39. Have there been any more developments with this? Thanks for your efforts either way!