i myself cannot find official sources for the original R-73 because its no longer in production but the majority witness give the word that the initial model had only 40 degrees of off-boresight capability
What wintesses? All russian sources and books official/non ofifcial state 45 lock angle for R-73 as it uses MK-80 seeker.
please show me as i have yet to find a ‘source’ referencing these values for the original R-73 variant.
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this is the options for R-73 upgrades.
the export poster is this
the left one is for the upgrade, middle for modernization (as is labelled) and the right one is for medium ranged A-A missiles
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MK-80 is seeker of base model. I33-12 is modenization proposal.
in the sheet i shared its the mk-200 and its stats are a bit different to the I33-12
How it’s related to qurent question about base R-73? MK-80 is old seeker of base R-73 as mentioned on both brochures.
the sheet was labelled as upgrade programs for the R-73 so i would assume the original seeker wouldnt be listed as part of the upgrade, but due to lack of sources i will have to admit an evidence based defeat.
it is possible that earlier sources mis labeled the FOV limit of the original but we cannot be certain
It’s comprasion of old seeker and new seeker. It’s literally said on both brochures.
“наявна ГСН” - available seeker, at first image
“for R-73 missile” and near “for R-73 missile modernization”, on second image
I haven’t seen any relaible source from you about ±40 deg. Every source states ±45.
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yes because i dont think this is a reliable source:
Yeah I wouldn’t trust this article at all. The claim about the base R-73 being 40° is labeled with a 1 as if the end of the article is gonna have a list of sources but then just lists Flight International as it’s only source, which when I searched just seemed to be another blog space for the same website, so a hard lack of any evidence it would seem for that articles claim.
One of the frustrating thaings about trying to do any research for any military equipment is that this kinda BS is quite common, having to swift through a sea of poorly written articles just to find good accurate information.
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i truly agree.
i am however confused as to why there arent any such display posters for the non export versions of these missiles.
Russia is known to export slightly downgraded versions of their weapons and equipment so i would surmise that either the exact capabilities are secret or just not worth mentioning.
I’ve found the Russian military equipment in particular can be frustrating to research, especially if your not Russian like me and don’t have access to Russian sources. Not only is good information scarce, but also sometimes there’s a lot of misinformation, like how most places confuse the difference between the base model Terminator, and the export upgrade package called the Terminator 2. Or how even at one of the Army expos hosted by Russia, the marketing panel made the claim that the T-90M had a new improved 125 which we now know to not be true.
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You should give the SU-39 a try if you ever get the chance, the TWS is very good for spotting enemies and the Bomb Load it can carry can destroy a entire base (including R-60Ms, Vikhrs and a Fuel Pod).
A overall solid vehicle in Air Simulator
Yeah… but I’d not want to spend the money on it. If I bought a vehicle for another tree it probably would be the Tornado MFG at the moment.
eh for the Sim, anti ship missle experience right?
Or just a Tornado Gr1 matched with the Mig-29 for a change and at 11.0 not 11.3. Though I am interested by the ASMs. Hoping we get Sea Eagles at some point in the next few years
so what do you say about the F16s and 14s having the best air to air and air to ground weaponry in game?! please stop it
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