Su-39: R77,R27,R73

Hehe, sounds like the same seeker mechanic as the Pars3LR from the Tiger chopper. This also changes target as soon as another heat source comes into its FoV, like an exlosion or wreck.

true and thats why better tornado variants need to come sooner then later, in the mean time is a lot fun hunting all those Su 25 variants in top tier currently shame britain has no real fighter

Took the Gr7 out last night in asb, 4 easy kills in every sortie.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/824914729314025485/1143657761918435337/War_Thunder_2023.08.22_-_00.05.12.120.DVR.mp4

Seriously this should not be added to the SU 39 and this is still the bugged weaker state.

A missle like this potentialy meeting 10.3 aircraft and it being the only one of its tier is gamebreaking. This could garantue further br increase

I actually don’t that is actually even realistic. 70-90 degrees for an aircraft with radar lock ,yeah, probably, but no way any missile of this era can do that. Its not until the really modern missile like Aim-9X that should be possible

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R-73 irl can actually make these shots yes

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Pull a 180 turn and chase after and catch up to a super sonic jet?

Based upon what I can find. It at most can hit something 45 degrees off-boresight

sadly it was considered the strongest short range missle until aim 9x and iris t, so it could be possible, but a missle like this with such capablities should not be introduced alone

If this is even slightly accurate, then forget Aim-9M. I hope we get ASRAAM, Aim-9X and Iris-T in the next update. Will be needed if we want any kind of balance.

DCS seems to have it modeled them modeled similarly.

just to make sure in dcs is it labeled R73 or R73E

That is not a good source of information

Never said it was, it’s just the fact War Thunder and DCS has it modeled the same way.

Though if it is, then the R-73 in WT pulled a dramatically tighter turn. Did an almost instant 180

45, this extends to 75 degrees in flight or something like that.

So still unlikely to be able to hit something behind the jet?

So if the target is going say from left to right and you fire as its flying past, then I can believe it tracking. But firing after its past and it doing a 180 turn? I seriously doubt it

I sincerely hope that the current IRCCM of the R-73 is retained.

I firther think that after the missile comes to live and people get accustomed to its performance a serious poll can be held to add R-73 to the Mig-29 in return for removing the R-27ER.

Save the ER and other last gen SARHs for later.

Though I’d hope at least if that were to happen, they’d consider Aim-9L/I (aim-9L with IRCCM) for a few aircraft in return. Things like the Tornado or harrier would probably benefit a lot of from it

From the documentation that I currently possess the R-73 in game is significantly less capable than what was tested by NATO after German reunification.

Now did early R-73s have excellent IRCCM? I really dont know, but IRCCM is something very uncomfortable for game balance. It creates genuine NEZ zones, something that wont be seen again until BVRAAMs are added.

So only giving it too one nation is going to cause problems especially when there are low powered options available and that are technically more historically accurate for many aircraft than the standard 9Ls would be the easy answer