Get rid of ALL of its precision ground attack weapons like the Vikhrs and replace them with the same loadout of the Su-25 (as I do not believe the russians have any precision guided weapons similar to that of the AGMs on the A-10, though I could be wrong) and you’d get your wish, it would drop down to 10.3ish. Though with IRCM, it could not drop quite as low.
u cant see the difference between aim 9l and bvr missles like the r27??? , the su 39 can get 4 r60m for all i care but the r27 is just to strong
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besides that a10 early only gets 2 aim 9ls as well, a big part of the problem is that the su 39 is a premium and accesible to every wallet warrior
Can you see the difference between BR 11.3 and 10.0? BR
yes??? i thought that was already discussed to death 11,3 comes from its G2A capability as well as IRCCM, the ARB aspect just doesnt matter
Well, the thermal imager is in the files, but for whatever reason the aircraft does not have it in game.
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If I were to buy a premium tank or plane, would it be an issue for you?
Definetly sounds like its a work in progress. Happens often. Guess it will come in the next major update
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Im sure when its added ,the Tornado Gr4 or Harrier Gr9 armed with Brimstone will sit above or equal to whatever the top tier jets of their time due solely on those AGMs.
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if people just buy straight up best vehicles for a job yes, my friend that is called p2w and already seen in the KA 50 and it is an idiotic menace. Did you see any premium with r27 ? No because they are even stronger and they are stronger then sparrows by a good bit as well if you wanna give that as an excuse and that is not me mentioning that sparrows are found on interceptors not on strikers
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of course and that is all good sure will be a pain to grind out since the missles they would carry propably still would be to strong ARB, but such is life
I’d not bother with either to be honest in ARB, unless Aim-9Ms are decent. But either will be very fun to use in SB. Im also semi-expecting the Gr9 will be premium and if that is the case, then that could be a very good jet for SB.
I can see another variant of the Su-39 with all the advanced weaponry on it later on in the tech tree, T-8TM-1 to be exact, I think we have T-8TM-2 in game.
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And that is alright and already got confirmed by gajin as well, end of the line vehicle with a high br and the necesary research modifers is ok, cause it isnt necesarily p2w and you need work to get to the point it is realy useable.
Another of my reason i am against the r27s on the su 39 i already said x times, adding those will raise its br necesarily to 11,7 that is tier 8 no way around it and p2w and that point, only other premium with 11,7 is Ka 50 and that one was a mistake as well to op for to long and shouldnt have been a premium in my opinion
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Unfortunately, and I have long felt this way. But the addition of ground vehicles has forever changed WT. More often than not, I feel that GRB is the devs primary focus and as most of the community appears to play GRB more than ARB these days, its not entirely surprising. This has left gamemodes like ARB, NRB, and especially SB under-developed. and I think many air trees have suffered from the divided attention as well… Jets like the A-10, Su-25 and Su-39, and maybe even jets like the Harrier Gr7, may never have been added if GRB was not a thing, why would they? These are not aircraft built for air to air combat. They may be able to defend themselves, but none could realisticly go toe-to-toe with an actual air superiority fighter. Even the later bombers like the Tornado Gr1, might not have been considered, or at least, they’d have a different loadout than they do currently.
With GRB a significant part of the game, and with the ability to take an aircraft or heli into GRB an option, many will want either, but likely not want to farm out the entire Air tree for such aircraft. The addition of a premium will allow them to skip that grind and add a very good attacker to their line-ups that will serve them well for a long time. It is for these players it was added and it is these players that have mainly been buying it.
It will be exceedingly hard to create an aircraft that works equally well for both, whilst maintaining the same BR. I do not believe it is entirely possible at the moment. Its GRB AAM loadout is plenty, and no more than most jets within that gamemode have. Until such time ARB and GRB see seperated BRs it must be designed and balanced for one.
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Wow I didn’t know about that, thanks for that!
I hope they will add it eventually as soon as possible
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Potentially, we’ll have to wait and see. But if aircraft like the Sea Harrier is anything to go by. Development of critical features can last for months after the aircraft was added to the game.
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That is true, time will tell.
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That. It could also explain the reason we don’t have the thermal imager in the game just yet.
Honestly I’m still holding out hope for a tech tree 25TM.
I’ve played the stock 25T today, I mean it’s slow to get places but if you stick close to the ground you can defo get some things done, such as bombing bases. Maybe, and this wouldn’t be too big of a deal, they could give it and the premium model the ability to carry 4 R-60Ms, either on double racks or on two more pylons, and it could affect the performance of it in a minor way.
Although, to be fair, it is a ground attacker, I still do not see a reason why they should buff any of the two aircraft into something they shouldn’t be, that would REALLY make the devs look biased and the pay to wins would defo cry for more after achieving a buff like that.
TL,DR: The addition of anything more than the R-73(nerfed btw) is unnecessary for this aircraft until maybe way way later. It’s a ground attacker, go play it in GRB lol
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I’m not entirely sure if they could carry the APU-60-2 double racks, though I’m sure it is technically possible, also APU-73-2, I wouldn’t hold my breath for double racks.
As for the R-73, I can definitely see them whenever we see the AIM-9M, since the recent addition of the Python-3 and PL-8.
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