I absolutely agree. Much like the introduction of aim9L to air rb via a10s and harriers, I think its perfectly reasonable to give tech tree su25t r73s. Its already at a severe disadvantage in air rb, even more so than the su25 and a10 were. People always overreact to new missiles
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I don’t think giving the tech tree variant R-73s would be an issue, I think a lot of people just don’t want people to be able to buy their way to such advanced weapons which is understandable.
I can say the same with many aircraft with same logic
Tornado F.3 ASRAAM and AMRAAM
Harrier GR7 ASRAAM or 9M
Tornado GR1 AIM-9M
Italian Tornado AIM-9L/I
German Tornado IRIS-T
France can play around with MICA
Are you ready for those?
If you do sure I don’t mind if SU-39 new missile
And trust me if those missile i said above exist you will find out what happening to you lovely SU-39 now is a bliss
Oh you even get SU-39 before US get A-10C and seem not enough
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The main mode is ground rb
Not to these ones.
When the ir guided r73s come to the su39 pay to wins will cry for the r77s next.
R73s honestly arent such a big buff from the r60.
And granting two for sure kills to amy aircraft is biased.
Giving it the r70 models wont help it being a bad air to air platform.
Just admit it guys.
Its not made for dogfighting.
So trying to make a plane balanced is special treatment? And what’s your point? There are other strike planes that could use a buff to air to air to help them stay more competitive and fun too play, so therefore the Su-39 should suffer too? Sounds like you just don’t want people to have fun. Also the real skill issue is pilots like you who think a slow strike plane with decent missles is too powerful lmao, maybe learn to not h or fly low? Not that hard man, not even sure why you sound so scared of a strike plane that has decent missles.
Also maybe you already forgot but I can’t use my air to ground weapons effectively in air RB, and I can’t use any air to air weapons effectively in ground RB, so why are you so pressed if the plane has appropriate weapons for both game modes? Honestly it just sounds like your jaded by poor treatment of other nations and planes by gajjin and your now trying to hold back the Su-39 because too you, everyone suffering is fair
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the point is that the Su 39 i perfectly balanced for its main role as a strike aircraft if we start giving it r25/73/77 , we can just as well give the other strikers their better missles since they are only balanced for their main purpose as strike aircraft as well. Tornado, Harrier etc suffer just as much as the SU 39 in ARB
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That’s really interesting to see it in the files, would be neat as the soviets still lack thermals for any plane. How long has the been in the files?
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I’m definitely looking forward to the thermals for it, like Morvran said above, it’s probably still WIP.
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First I would say the do not suffer as much, as both of them still have better missles and performance(harrier having the potential to actually dogfight a bit and the tornado atleast being fast so it has a chance to get to bomb bases before getting intercepted) but even then I acknowledge that these planes still do poorly compaired too other strike planes and multi role fighters, so I would be very supportive of these planes also getting a buff of some kind. Also while the Su-39 is very nice in Ground RB, it’s utterly useless in air RB, so no it’s not balanced in that since. Keep in mind I’m not asking for it too be made OP, just given better air to air capabilities so it has a chance to get a kill other than pure luck.
i have no problem giving it better A2A performance in the kind of 4 R60M as example, but demanding the strongest missles in the game the R27 or the even R73 is just to much, if you dont just shoot them right at the start those are nearly always garanteed kills on top of the SU 39 being a premium and one doing p2w at this point
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If anything, people that want similar weapons for other strike aircraft should be for the Su-25T/39 getting better air to air armaments, it would be a area of effect for sure, they’d add the AIM-9M and AMRAAM style weapons to other strike aircraft that could use them. Not going to get anywhere arguing about it. I’m all for it.
I tried digging a bit for information on the Khod (Motion) imaging infrared pod. Honestly I struggled to find anything substantial on it, but it probably doesn’t help that I’m not Russian, was woundering if anyone else might know a bit more about it?
Yeah, If you’re looking for anything Russian related, it’s best to search in Russian, you’ll find stuff that you otherwise wouldn’t find in English. This goes for other languages and countries too.
Guess I’m gonna have to bugg some Russian friends to do some research and translating for me
Here is something that mentions Khod and has some images and bunch of other information on the different prototypes.
And there’s a Russian forum post about it
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Thank you!
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Oh really? you don’t have to tell me how to play strike aircraft I knew better than you.
you’re the one that have problem with good strike aircraft and demand better missile IRCM checked large amount of CM checked ton of ground loadout checked and still not enough for you
you are using it at air RB it’s your own problem if you look at my GR7 and that came from GRB alone because i knew that it will not do well in airRB so i choose to play around its strength not weakness.
what if i make the topic ASRAAM or 9M for GR7 because it not do well in Air RB or IRIS-T for German Tornado because it not do well in AirRB? people will call me crazy that for sure
And hey like i said if those missile exist in the game i not gonna stop SU-39 to get whatever missile it use historically same goes with other aircraft as well
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Nobody is stopping you, I’d support it.
The only post someone would call you crazy about is the IRIS-T as it is comparable to the AIM-9X and others alike.
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@Kingtiez Why gaijin chose naming Su-39 instead Su-25TM? The Su-39 is a variant of the Su-25TM that can carry advanced air-to-air missiles such as the R77, R27, and R73E.
The Su-39 is a modernized version of the Su-25TM, which was a prototype for an improved variant of the Su-25 attack aircraft. The Su-39 features enhanced avionics, weapons systems, and survivability. The reason for the change of designation from Su-25TM to Su-39 is not officially confirmed, but some sources suggest that it was done to emphasize the significant upgrades and to avoid confusion with the older models.
“The purchase of new equipment for the Air Force of Russia and other CIS countries ceased, but there were export orders for the Su-25, they were especially interested in the Su-25TM, which was presented to potential buyers first as the Su-25TK, and then as a fundamentally new Su-34 and then Su-39. However, it was not possible to quickly establish the production of the aircraft in Ulan-Ude, time was lost and it did not work out to make money on the Su25TM as well as on the Su-27 …”
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