Su-39: R77,R27,R73

Wait, so a few other just also suffer so therefore the Su-39 should suffer? Is that really your logic? Are you that jaded that you can’t convince of a world were jets actually get treated fairly? Also I’d still rather play a lot of those jets than the Su-39 in air RB.

I don’t think that was the point, rather, why should Su-39 get special treatment and leave others where they are?
EDIT: I’d be more than happy to see A-7s go down but that would also mean lower BR in GRB…

That sounds more like Russian Propaganda, boasting about what it theoretically could do, not what it ACTUALLY could do. There are pictures of the Harrier Gr7 carrying AMRAAM, does that mean the Gr7 should be outfitted with AMRAAM when they are added?

Fine… I’ve accpeted that. but that is 0 reason to give it the best missiles in the game. Increase its R-60M count from 2 to 4. And give it R-27Rs. If that doesnt work, drop its BR down 0.3. If that still doesnt work. Well then go from there. Giving it R-77, R-73 or R27ER/R-27ET would just be insane and would destroy the game for everyone else.

90% of the british jets are in that exact situation currently. we have spent years being shafted and treated unfairly. The Tornados SHOULD have been added well over a year ago, but have only just been added and are barely playable. Soviets get special treatment all the time, they have the best planes, tanks and ships in the game. Any and all new features, soviets get first. They always have and always will. For once its nice to see them getting something that isnt by default OP. Something that by all accounts requires skill to use. and not just steam roll everything with little effort.

Me when a prototype plane shows off weapons (it’s clearly propaganda) so goodby hunters SRAMS, good by American AGM-65’s goodbye F-5C’ flair and chaff pods. And goodbye early F-16’s mavericks. Also hey dude, for once you you argue in good faith? I’m not trying to ask for R-77’s here cus I understand they would most likely break the game, even on a platform like the Su-39 but two R-27R’S? I feel like that’s ez to deal with still. Yeah we could get the harrier GR 7 to carry AMRAMS but at that point it would probably have to go up in BR to atleast 12.0 probably 12.3 right? Because the plane has decent flight prefromance despite being subsonic, and the AMRAMS is a powerful missle. Funny thaing is later American harriers will have this capability and will probably come later too the game. But a harrier with Fox 3s dosnt compare too a Su-25 with Fox 1’s so pls stop being silly

Dont forget to just outright delete the Yak-141 or Kronstadt from the game, Neither of them ever existed.

Ahhh, so your jaded that Gajjin give the UK tech tree poor treatment and then you come into the forums and try and drag everyone else down to your level because your upset, since that’s the case pls get off the forum man, I understand that it’s not fair what gajjin does too the UK tech tree but that’s no reason to try and tell everyone else they should settle for less. It’s a childish mentality and didn’t belong on the site dedicated to trying to improve the game. Maybe instead of arguing on here with me about the Su-39 you should spend more time on threads about British vehicles since you feel so strongly about them.

Exactly!!! and I can say SU39 are still in better situation than many premium aircraft hell even better than some tech tree aircraft.

I’m just saying by your logic that’s what would happen, and it’s obvious not how the gajjin devs feel about the game…

It’s not man, the plane is only good in ground RB and totally useless in air RB, feel free to try and take a forgfoot into 11.3 and tell me how it goes.

IRCM, Large CM counts, powerful IR missiles, Stalanium, good radar. Probably a lot better than the Torando Gr1 at the same BR


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Maybe you should just gett off the forums right now if your gonna try and use personal attacks to convince me the the Su-39 didn’t have a problem, even when multiple YouTubers have already some pretty good videos about how it’s virtually unplayable at its own br in air RB. Seriously man stop being childish

It was a prototype, never saw active service. I could also cough up a dozen western jets that we’ve yet to see in game so far. But they made an active choice to give it R-27ERs, when we have no idea what it might have carried

You are the ONE who wants to slap OP missiles that should never have been added this early onto a pay to win jet.

IRCM and countermeasures won’t save me from Fox-1’s and I can’t dogfight cus I’m a brick. Powerful IR guided missless? Good joke, yeah I’m absolutely dominating with two R-60M’S against F-16’s and mig 29’s bro it’s so ezzz. And the only advantage I get with the radar is that I can slave my R-60M to try and get better angled shots, but the R-60M still lives flairs, atleast your tornado is fast and has an actual chance to reach the bombing targets or run away from a fight, the Su-39 being a subsonic plane on a large map is no fun.

Are you seriously trying to say the Tornado GR.1 is better than the Su39? The GR.1 which is gimped by giving it only 4 laser guided bombs?
How much Russian Bias is enough? You already get stuff that overperforms compared to real life, but now you want your attackers to be better in the air to air role than other countries fighters? Comical.

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R-27R=OP??? You telling me that if you had to fight a frogfoot with two R-27R’s you couldn’t handle that in your F-16 or mug 29? Idk man that sounds pretty easy to deal with still. If anything it sounds like most planes you have to deal with at that br but slightly worse still, since it has poor flight prefromance.

There are plenty of vehicles which are “unplayable” in air rb. Use them in ground RB like they are meant to be used if you don’t want to have an issue.
I don’t see british players complaining about the GR.7 at 11.7.
Skill issue.

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If you take ground attacker for AirRB and do bad well it your own fault
well considering as you can buy your way to get good ground attacker aircraft for use without grinding then if you say it only in good in ground RB well it good enough for it role while for example Milan not good in any game mode. and with IRCM and Large CM counts it better than nothing it not might save you from fox1 yes (nothing but the timing and skills to save you from fox one) but can still save you from IR missile form the rear which is good enough for it job

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