Su-39 Current BR is unbearable ( 11.7 )

Thats not how it works.

I am listening. ( reading )

Wikipedia since i doubt my textbooks in czech would be useful here.

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Thanks, I read that dozens of times.

What i meant is, A subsonic Fighter Is not as potent as a new generation Air defense system, Specially when the aircraft is from like the 1990`s, The Aircraft is heavy ( CAS dedicated ), Not alot of Maneuverability, Against an ARH MISSILE @MiGoon_Fox-3 YOU KNOW THAT RIGHT?

You lied when u said about The IRIST ONLY Having IR Missiles.
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Wrong That is what u said before. NOT only Radar. Last time i did not check my game, but not i did.


See? Mr i never lie and i want proof?

U claimed I lie, But It seems you lied.

I never lie.


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I am going to check The ingame info Every time u say something.

none of those are the IRIS-T SLM

Our subject is not Strictly to IRIST SLM

Our subject is that the Su-39 meets a dozen and dozen of Anti air missiles when it gets uptiered ( happens like 90 percent of the time ) which really destroys the experience when u cant do anything against 3 missiles coming at you after u killed like 2 tanks in game.

what you were quoting was strictly about the IRIS-T SLM

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It was universally

From my Original post, I did Mention IRIST, But i also mentioned ARH missiles which Are others than IRIST.

It is still equipped to deal with most AA threats with the mach 3.5 ARMs.

Hell, its only aircraft with passive IR countermeasures as far as i know

Youre showing off NASAMs tho?

I updated my original Post to include that Here

Good? Since it meet them anyway.

let me update it even further.

Which are made outright ineffective due to multipath affecting ARH SPAAs exactly like they would be air launched.

Coming from above At mach Kaput against a subsonic aircraft at 150 Meter altitude aint going to Multipath a thing since multipath work below 60 Meter altitude distance, Considering if you fighting in a mountain like terrain environment which it will be in a more disadvantage against that, And even at Flat terrain, you will get spammed until you eventually go kaput, Including you cant get kill effectively in both ways since u will have to up eventually to gain some altitude for a strike.

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@UniqueScorpions-live

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Well yea, since multipath is 60m.

Last session we did 4 man tornado squad and i had zero issues multipathing the S-300s, and it wasnt due to speed. If anything, speed made me overshoot targets with conventional bombs a bit.

SLE with ARMs and brimstones on the other hand was amazing.

I did mention that/

Tornado is supersonic, and S-300 Are Awful, And Ofcourse you will be able to dodge them, SU-39 IS NOT A SUPER SONIC FIGHER.
We are NOT talking about tornado, Tornado Can Of COURSE Dodge it more than Enough in nuclear escalation.
( Nuclear escalation is flat ground terrain, Yeah fun fact ).

And i said speed didnt have to do anything with me being able to defeat them.

I would achieved same result with A-10. Or Su-39 which i now consider getting solely for NE.

OF Course it DO, The Speed Determines the Proportional navigational Drift for The S-300 MISSILES to Steer into the Future Interception Point And you HAVE SPEED to Fool THE Missile in the Future changable Interception point after you TERRAIN MASK AND MULTIPATH Including chaff.

Dude doesn’t even throw context in and @Beeschurger ate it up lol.

I was attempting to mcm for the first time like @ron_23 said is the norm.

F-15E apparently sucks at it, because it would only do it against R-77s.

There was only a couple kills the R-77s scored, one where I put myself into a terrible position on purpose to test them.
BVR they didn’t nothing.
WVR they did something if i had made a mistake.

A-120s were more reliable at range.

Granted @MiGoon_Fox-3 used multiple planes and I only had used the F-15E.

All in all, I see no reason not to give the Su-39 R-77s, as on a sub sonic platform they won’t prefer all that well.