not in practice.
tws+ or not its still hdn only
my man have you ever tried using any mode in the su27 that dosent have HMS in the name?
No, because you dont need to in rb
Src PD works more than well. thats what you use for any long range shot. which you want to do with r27ers. tws is pretty bad, but you have virtuall no reason to use TWS on su27
F14 radar is trash lmao, i will take my Su-27 over every other 13.0 even before the update it was my favorite aircraft and now its even better. Su-27 and Su-33 (better 27) are imo the best 13.0 without Fox 3
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Thats a lie lol. I have both Su-27 and F14A and IRIAF and the Su-27 is better lol, idk what you’re on but the Su-27 is infinitely better than the gimped F14 one. Check my KD or whatever you want but i like my.Su-27. I used it to grind the Su-24 and Su-34 and what ill continue to use to grind the Su-27SM and Su-30SM because the Su-27 is my turn off brain and grind russia vehicle. (That and the Mig 27’s, those guns are so good, actual laser beams)
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I don’t remember how many matches i have in the Su-27 maybe like 150? Not the most but definitely not a small amount and probably close to the same in my F-14s but the radar on the F14 is artificially held back to keep it in balance, just look at any actual record of the radar.
That is a massive lie
The Baz is actually the worse f15 a because its heavier and pulls only 7g i don’t know if its still the case
F15j gets aam3 which are slightly better than 9m
The baz meshupar is still the worse f15c in game since it gets a worse radar and worse flight performance because of the weight and didn’t have hmd when it came out
F15jm isn’t bad but would be better if the aam4 weren’t so draggy but they are really good at close range
It’s an identical flight model to the American A model. It has identical gross weight too, don’t know where you’re getting this from. And it doesn’t only pull 7Gs lmfao, that’s just a lie.
It has a copy paste radar identical to that found on the F-15C MSIP II. Gaijin gave it that and Radar HMD after players weee complaining a lot.
It had HMD from the get go, just not for the radar. Even then it doesn’t even matter anymore now that it has it. It’s not worse now just because it was worse for a month or two a while back. It’s irrelevant at this point. And it also has identical weight and flight performance compared to the F-15C MSIP II, again I don’t know where you’re getting this information. Only the F-15I and F-15E have different weights and flight models.
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Not saying those aircraft are that bad, although the F-14B is quite easy to notch. I’m more pointing at the fact that the R27ERs and other missiles aboard the SU-33, when combined with the sheer number you can carry, makes it quite competent when compared to those examples
Idk about F-14B but F-14A radar (I have this one) is really trash and absolutely not comparable with Su-27/33 one.
But back to topic. What I see option to buff Su-33 so in increasing number of countermeasures what is pretty possible by adding S-8P/PM. I think that I was already talking about that.
They have the exact same radar
I don’t think it is necessary, because the su33 is more or less a side grade to the Su27 and is fine with its current configuration
The S-8P/PM itself wouldn’t be a very significant change. More chaffs for the price of 1 or 2 missiles depending on whether you want to carry an additional 40 or 80 countermeasures. It’s not something that would significantly affect the performance of the aircraft, but it would be nice to have such an option.
Fair but then you would have to give up what is the main difference between the Su27 and Su33 and you would more or less end up being a Su27 with a better RWR and more countermeasures
Only more chaffs (not flares) and for price that number of AAM will be limited on same number as Su-27 when those chaffs equiped.
Yeah, but in the end you would have more chaff than the Su27 and a better RWR
Su27 gets the spo15
Su33 gets a fully digital RWR
Btw Su-27 can carry those chaffs as well. Anything with B-8M launchers.
So basically every Flanker?
Yes. They are chaff version of S-8 rockets.
I also heard about chaff rounds for the gsh30 BTW
I think the guy mentions it in this video
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