I’m not stating it was accurate to real life or not. I’m stating it was one of the most handhold-y planes in the entire game and it was basically cheating.
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if the gripen is not acurate, you probably have data to back up that view and if you have data on it you can just bug report it
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They chose a document from a competitor aiming to downplay Gripen amongst other aircraft in the face of documents with more credible provenance to appease the players like the individual above. You can bug report all you want, but if they choose that the less credible paper is the one most beneficial to their position, that’s that.
so jsut like the su27 where they used the flight performance of one of its early prototypes instead of the actual jet, and then ignored every single bug report because it didnt lined up with their “data”
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Pretty much. Though the current state of Gripen is worse even than that document suggests it ought to be. Just keeps getting barely documented negative changes every other update (very slight exaggeration). Because folk didn’t like it being effective, so might as well do their best to kneecap it.
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Lmao, just lmao.
I know some of the tournament players that were looking forward to the EFT/Rafale mostly b3cause they hoped the Gripen would finally be pushed out of their meta.
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i feel like alot of high/top tier stuff besides the US-Airframes are underperforming while especially the f16a and f15a are just overperforming
meanwhile we have the flanker that cant perform some of the manuovers it performed at airshows, because gaijins data shows that those manouvers are impossible
same happened to the digital russian RWRs they just kept slowly increasing the blindspot at the top and bottom
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And the Gripen out-performs the F-16 in energy retention in-game.
What’s your claim? Gripen bias?
Yeah, and its really sad because its all because it was released way to early. If it was released with the euro and rafale there would have been no outcry to nerf it. (beyond the funny inconsistencies dev server models tend to have)
while I agree that the RU airframes are underperforming a little, Mig-29 and Flankers, its not that drastic, there are a shit ton of flanker variations and differences between each minor model, as well as limitations that almost all aircraft have been given
Su-27s are not under-performing in any metric according to graphs.
And the FMs of Mig-29s aren’t under-performing; most likely engine thrust from 400 - 600kph is under-performing on Mig-29s.
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Big issue there was the fact 100m MP height was a thing so rendering every SARH missile useless was a pretty easy thing to do. Furballs on the deck were a thing and Gripen was meta for that, it’s pretty evident.
He’s definitely more right than people who claimed planes with 27ERs were meta back then.
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Sooo on the dev server 30sm and iirc the EF aswell just recieved a feature which shows them the type of target being locked in both TWS and STT, wasnt able to properly test it yet, but seems like it should be able to differentiate between a misslie and an actual plane. Again, even in TWS. Which is god-tier on this thing. Doesnt do anything in GMTI though (doesnt show anything at all, cant tell apart SPAA and a warship I guess).
Edit: it also seems to have lost the NCTR on radar’s MFD in cockpit? The “Legeng” that had plane names is no longer there, but numbers (94,95…) near the contact are still present. Who knows, might be intentional, might be a bug. GMTI mode has been acting up severely on this dev build.
“Using a dogfighting jet to dogfight is cheating!”
My goodness, you American mains really are something. God forbid any other nation besides America gets something good. What’s next? Using a 88mm cannon at 5.7 is cheating since America only gets a 76mm?
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Sorry what?
The gripen once it got nerfed long before Ef2000 and rafale were even anounced was towed way back in line.
Gripen at release was bonkers no argument there, but to act as if it was still some meta plane is just laughable, after its FM nerfs, acceleration nerfs and its retention, nerf it became substantially worse as a platform.
Hell i could beat the gripen in the F16AJ in a dogfight and its literally one of rhe heavier f16s.
Lets not even talk about when. ARH missiles were added and suddenly the f16C and F15C became the single best planes in game.
F16C has vbeen one of the top contenders in the game since its release.
While originally the 9g aoa limit was daft it was removed long ago.
You do realise the MiG 29s have been compared to, and out manoeuvred F-18s, right? You also do realise the MiG 29 has never carried R-60 missiles, right?
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Seeing as the F15A could keep up with the gripen as well in most aspects and out do it all you really had to do was not get into a turn fight with the grip.
People just wanted to cry, 15A had 120cms, was faster, fantastic fm (when wing rips were fixed)
4x 9m, 4x 7M and could literally beat the gripen everywhere bar the instantaneous turning.
Like i got gripen after the nerfs and could not figure out why people still hated it so much.
Meanwhile F15A sat at 12.3 while the rest even su27 and j11 at 12.7 then 13.0 etc etc
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I mean, I still believe it’s still fine, but I also just do 1v1s in Customs with it, so I’m a bit sheltered from Pubs. Although, I did think I was crazy for believing it was a bit sluggish, but it never stopped my friends from being absolutely terrified when they see the Swedish flag in the menu.
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In tournaments the Gripen still hard dominated the F-16C though, I mean there is a reason why you pretty much never see an F-16C in most of these tournaments.
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@GALWAYLION
It’s interesting that you’re calling Mikoyan liars.
Mig-29s carried R-60s, they are a historical loadout.
And Mig-29s have been primarily compared to F-16s.