And he was right. You could turn off your radar, turn on periodic countermeasures, send it into a furball and come out with as many kills as you had missiles, while being nigh invulnerable since the ‘secondary’ CMs were just as strong as regular ones and you had a near infinite supply of them.
“Parity”: outdogfights everyone else unless you’re a HUGE tryhard and use the best handling F-16s (which don’t get AIM-9Ms while the Gripen does), is one of the fastest fighters around, with incredible maneuverability and energy retention, and the most amount of CMs of them all.
And you couldn’t get radar missiled since multipath height was 100m and they’d all miss.
Yeah no, Gripen was stupidly OP and many more than just DEFYN said it.
You want to know what plane is specifically noted as the one to keep up with early Gripen? The light F16s. The energy retention was the fault, instead they took a hatchet to the entire thing.
tph it easy that time when people willing to coming and playing with you in your game without you even force them to
“Oh that’s a Gripen you know what let go and dog fight him in SU-27” good idea right?
Only just woke up, read “just gave” as “just gave only”.
People would not have been overly bothered if the F15 got BOL, especially in its current state. And if America getting it caused the devs to fix it, people would have been pleased.
Well, we have it on the F-14B and unfortunately it still isn’t fixed. But maybe if more popular jets get it (like F-15) more people will push for it to be fixed
I’m not stating it was accurate to real life or not. I’m stating it was one of the most handhold-y planes in the entire game and it was basically cheating.
They chose a document from a competitor aiming to downplay Gripen amongst other aircraft in the face of documents with more credible provenance to appease the players like the individual above. You can bug report all you want, but if they choose that the less credible paper is the one most beneficial to their position, that’s that.
so jsut like the su27 where they used the flight performance of one of its early prototypes instead of the actual jet, and then ignored every single bug report because it didnt lined up with their “data”
Pretty much. Though the current state of Gripen is worse even than that document suggests it ought to be. Just keeps getting barely documented negative changes every other update (very slight exaggeration). Because folk didn’t like it being effective, so might as well do their best to kneecap it.
I know some of the tournament players that were looking forward to the EFT/Rafale mostly b3cause they hoped the Gripen would finally be pushed out of their meta.
i feel like alot of high/top tier stuff besides the US-Airframes are underperforming while especially the f16a and f15a are just overperforming
meanwhile we have the flanker that cant perform some of the manuovers it performed at airshows, because gaijins data shows that those manouvers are impossible
same happened to the digital russian RWRs they just kept slowly increasing the blindspot at the top and bottom
Yeah, and its really sad because its all because it was released way to early. If it was released with the euro and rafale there would have been no outcry to nerf it. (beyond the funny inconsistencies dev server models tend to have)
while I agree that the RU airframes are underperforming a little, Mig-29 and Flankers, its not that drastic, there are a shit ton of flanker variations and differences between each minor model, as well as limitations that almost all aircraft have been given
Su-27s are not under-performing in any metric according to graphs.
And the FMs of Mig-29s aren’t under-performing; most likely engine thrust from 400 - 600kph is under-performing on Mig-29s.
Big issue there was the fact 100m MP height was a thing so rendering every SARH missile useless was a pretty easy thing to do. Furballs on the deck were a thing and Gripen was meta for that, it’s pretty evident.
He’s definitely more right than people who claimed planes with 27ERs were meta back then.
Sooo on the dev server 30sm and iirc the EF aswell just recieved a feature which shows them the type of target being locked in both TWS and STT, wasnt able to properly test it yet, but seems like it should be able to differentiate between a misslie and an actual plane. Again, even in TWS. Which is god-tier on this thing. Doesnt do anything in GMTI though (doesnt show anything at all, cant tell apart SPAA and a warship I guess).
Edit: it also seems to have lost the NCTR on radar’s MFD in cockpit? The “Legeng” that had plane names is no longer there, but numbers (94,95…) near the contact are still present. Who knows, might be intentional, might be a bug. GMTI mode has been acting up severely on this dev build.
