I dont think its worth bothering, he clearly doesnt know what hes talking about
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my mistake, 161 battles
did not notice the typhoon
still does not change the facts
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So Nike Ajax, why do you reply to me after my comment?
The aim120 has the one of the best range and the best energy retention in long range.
I wrote again to you, the altitude and speed reached when the missile is launched (which is facilitated by good acceleration) also contribute to the missile hitting the target.
I already explained why.
example: Why do you think F15E was an monster on the dev server in bvr before the nerf?
Because the acceleration of the aircraft was very high - you had higher speed when you launched the Aim120 missiles.
Almost all of your launched amraams which you launched it, hit the target.
It was also op when defending, because the upcoming missile, dont can’t catched you up, by your high acceleration+speed after the defending.
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uh huh, the excuses people have when lying
literally changed what you said
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does not change a single thing
you have no idea how top tier works
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good thing those dont matter if you run out of missiles or are forced defensive where the missile has to maneuver a lot which means less energy for engagement
because it didnt have to face the su30sm
Please explain to me how a slower aircraft with shorter range missiles will beat a faster aircraft with longer range missiles that can fire them much sooner
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general notice dont lie or your opinion is invalid
2 people here lying, both of their opinions are invalid considering the inclusions of lies and admitting them only after being caught.
you can fire r77 at kmax due to having more of them and you cant do the same with amraams or youll run out of the missiles and not have any for when the fight closes in
the r77 fired at kmax will also force any other aircraft defensive and also reduce their climb and energy and if they panic fire a missile, it will be useless because youll notch it right after firing a second missile which will continue to keep them defensive
if they were to continue the exchange they would lose out of missiles before getting close
if they werent continuing they would be forced defensive and get trashed as you get close
You gave an evasive answer, the question really wasn’t a question.
Explanation:
Because the acceleration of the aircraft was very high - you had higher speed when you launched the Aim120 missiles.
Almost all of your launched amraams which you launched it, hit the target.
It was also op when defending, because the upcoming missile, dont can’t catched you up, by your high acceleration+speed after the defending.
There’s nothing to argue about that, because that’s how it was. That’s how much it affected the aim120’s reach and survivability.
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see above reply i already mentioned everything neccessary
“op” when not facing su30sm
that’s a lot of guesswork lol, normally both will fire their fox3 at somewhere around 20km or less, if they both start maneuvering, the probability of the r77-1 hitting its targets drops A LOT, it’s not the same case for the aim120 (ofc, if you don’t notch it correctly or just try to go cold and run away from it), since the aim120 carrier will be usually FASTER than you, the aim120 will overall have a even bigger chance to hit or chase you for a longer period of time compared to the r77-1
now imaine the su30sm having to notch? 1 turn or maybe 2 turns and you are already out of ANY energy, the f15s, EF and rafales retain energy way better and that gives them a better chance to keep defending if they need it
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No it won’t. All they have to do is slightly maneuver and the R-77 will miss because guess what, it will be so slow it is barely staying in the air
No they wouldnt. Every time both aircraft defend, the Su30 will not only recommit later, but also recommit slower reducing its missiles effectiveness
Not only that but after 3-4 evasions the Su-30 will be out of chaff
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Not only retain but also regain
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effective strategy and there is nothing that can invalidate it due to you having higher amount of missiles - like i said the other aircraft does not have a valid way of countering it early on because otherwise they run out of missiles and if they try to counter it at closer ranges theyll just get trashed because they were forced to stay defensive
considering the ranges and you being able to force the enemy defensive their missiles wont have a short TTI, instead it will be long and therefore you can take more time to notch and wont need to maneuver as aggressively losing less energy
true lol, im not saying the su30sm is bad, but having the al-41 engines wont make that plane op at all, it is still a really heavy bird in the end
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unneccessary buff for something that already kills everything in bvr
Nike Ajax, please, get on the dev server and fight my F-15I with your Su-30SM and back up your arguments
Until then, I don’t think anything else is needed to be said
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There’s nothing to argue about that example (which happened in the ,Firebirds dev server"), because that’s how it was. The acceleration of the F15/E and its speed when launching the missiles affected the aim120’s arrival at the target and the aircraft’s survivability to such an extent, before it got nerfed in the dev server.
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2 things that have needed to be said; dont lie in your arguments and dont support others in lying.
any person who lies while arguing to try and get the su30sm buffed can be considered invalid
we can indeed meet in dev server tomorrow after 3pm utc2
good thing this wouldnt have mattered against the su30sm because you simply dont hav enough missiles to win. you had a good amount of missiles against your opponents back then because nothing else had significantly more.
now an aircraft with significantly more missiles of r77 will just trash you.
it is an advantange that didnt exist against you back in dev server that exists now.
but i guess you are fine with the current EF even with the bad radar, being the best at bvr and dogfights (guns only) , right? :D
To me, it almost seems like “balance” only fits when it’s convenient, otherwise I really hope to see you asking for EF nerfs since this thing can sustain 16+g at high speeds :D
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