F4e on low fuel is a ufo. Like try it its imoressive as hell
youre essentially saying that it shouldnt have disadvantanges only advantanges and you have never been okay with the su30sm being balanced
otherwise dont complain about the factors making su30sm balanced
I didn’t? Even with better engines I don’t doubt the EFT and Rafale or even the F-18 would be better and that’s fine, they get better turn times cause they’re overall lighter airframes anyways
I still want the better engines for the Nth time because of climb
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the su30sm will already be best in bvr. there is no need to buff this factor. considering gaijin’s implementation they recognize this.
But it isn’t? Like I’ll say again. EFT and F-15E would still get to ideal bvr ranges faster and AIM-120 will still be a better BVR missile because of less drag
Look it’s not bad, but it’s really mid at bvr
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Let’s see the disadvantages…
Horrible turnrate - Much harder time getting to a notch
Bad energy retention - Much slower after notching
Bad acceleration - Cannot regain speed fast after notching, cannot climb in time, cannot get enough launch speed limiting the missiles range
96 countermeasures - Wont be able to defeat missiles easily, cant spam chaff
Worst RWR blindspots of top tier - Can only detect missiles on its sides, not above or below
No MAW - Cannot automatically detect missile launches
Shall I go on?
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too bad you dont have enough of those to compete against su30sm because youll be forced defensive.
But EFT and F-15E would force it on the defensive first, because I can’t believe I am saying this again
Would get to BVR faster, ergo fires sooner
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Not really, as the aim120 has the best range and energy retention.
And as I wrote, the altitude and speed reached when the missile is launched (which is facilitated by good acceleration) also contribute to the missile hitting the target.
I already explained why.
example: Why do you think F15E was better on the dev server before the nerf in bvr?
Because the acceleration of the aircraft was very high - you had higher speed when you launched the Aim120 missiles.
Almost all of your launched amraams which you launched it, hit the target.
It was also op when defending, because the upcoming missile, dont can’t catched you up, by your high acceleration+speed after the defending.
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also the r77-1 is only faster when flying in a straight line, if the target maneuvers even a little bit the drag from the grid fins will slow down the r77 much more compared to the aim120
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now this is the biggest talk of trash. you dont need to spam all of your chaff and the flares firing direction make it possible to defeat irccm missiles continuing your turn if you have the skill to do so
wont waste flares/chaff against missiles that werent launched against you
wont have to notch a bunch considering it can force enemies defensive due to having more missiles
good see above
it is sufficient in getting into a notch within the times of bvr missile TTI
considering everything you listed is negative we can tell that you have a bias. youre trying to claim that the su30sm would be worst while the benefit of the missile loadout will make it best in bvr
good thing you have more of them and you dont need the first ones to hit you only need to force your target defensive and theyre easy to kill after that
considering maneuvering a proper notch done at proper range will defeat a missile regardless in normal gameplay
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Glad to see that someone who has no idea how top tier works is talking about top tier
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You kniw gaijin can force a reduction for the sake of balance right? Would you be happy with 10 or 8 77-1 as compromise for getting better engines? Cause I would
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personal attacks when being proven wrong
we already have a liar, a person who turns into personal attacks when running out of arguments and other non sense
that will be only under discussion if it happens
otherwise i can say that “gaijin can force a reduction to eurofighter and so…”
The 30 even with the 77-1 is to slow to get to Optimal BVR speed before 15Es and EFTs do…can you BVR with the 30…Yes…can you BVR better the a EFT in time to climb to 5000 meters level out and build speed up, NO!
I have been on the Dev Server NONE stop testing the 30 and F18…they are good but not better at BVR then the best BVR jets on the live now because of their speed limitation…if you gave the 30 something like the R-77M then you would have a BS situation for BVR going on.
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How is it a personal attack? I am just pointing out that you have no idea what you are talking about :)
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too bad you can disrupt their climb due to having significantly more missiles
kmax the r77 will hit if they fly in a straight line
MAW helps you to detect missiles, for sure it is an advantage to have it
you cant when your missiles wont reach them first cause you know, they are faster than you and the aim120 bleeds less speed while maneuvering
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How would you distrupt it when the EFT and F-15E would already be in ideal altitude before you can get them close enough to fire your missiles?
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