yes and it was so overbearing that everyone had to stay around that height and its addition pretty much killed off any long range missile shots
its only competition was the aim7f, which is worse in every way, and its tracking is so bad you can just roll at the right time to avoid it
lmao
you clearly havent tried to defend against it, its much harder than any fox 3 in game rn
“I’m a US main I can’t deal with SARH” lol
I can deal with reasonable SARHs, but for some reason certain SARH missiles are unreasonably hard to notch, while also being impossible to roll unlike the SARHs used on most NATO aircraft
dude why are we acting like r27er wasn’t outrollable as well back then. this was before maneuverability buff to 35 gs and less drag
that buff was still well before ARHs were added (except maybe aim54) so it was still competing with the AIM-7F
The community’s base level understanding of radar mechanics has substantially improved over the 2 years since the AIM-120 was added. Multipathing wasn’t even a well known feature back in the days of SARH missile combat, and people still argued that “the AIM-7 is bugged and acts like an AMRAAM” when they’d die to a sparrow guiding off oversplash. You’re comparing apples to oranges in terms of environment.
R-77-1 is first at 25.7s M1.88
AIM-120C-5 second 26.9s M1.98
AIM-120A third 27.4s M1.80
R-77 last 28.7s M1.47
R-27ER 25.3s M1.94
AIM-7M 29.1s M1.55
R-27ER 24.9s M2.27
AIM-7M 29.2s M1.97
The TTI difference between the AIM-120C-5 and R-77 (1.8s) is substantially smaller than that between an R-27ER and AIM-7M (3.8/4.3s). Difference in impact velocity are closer (M0.51 vs M0.39/M0.3).
7M vs 27ER was also at a time where the MiG-29 had an HMD, while the F-14/16 did not, and the R-27ER pulls 35G vs the AIM-7M’s 25G, AND the 27ER has datalink while the 7M does not.
You have no clue what you’re talking about, and worse, you didnt even bother checking to see if what you said had any merit.
The SU-30MK2 is such a downgrade from the SU-30SM (I know it’s behind a couple iterations actually) only used to lure in wallet warriors. It doesn’t have the floppy engines, it has a downgraded radar (the same as the SU-27SM), and all it’s missiles are export variants that suck compared to the originals. Which in the case of the ARH one, is especially bad because the R-77 is already not competitive with AIM120’s. The maneuverability seems like an SU-27 if it was as heavy as the Mig-23M. I love seeing Venezuelan players on the enemy team because they think it’s a real missile bus and skyline with it and then their radar doesn’t get lock and they eat a R-27ER.
They’re literally copy pastes in-game. Stop spouting lies.
actually the missiles are better than aim 120s and the export rvv ae is the exact same as r77
I read off missilery for specs so I didn’t know that the exports variants are the same as the actuals in game. Thanks. Makes a lot of sense.
r-77 looks like it should have a max range of 100km though if it wasn’t limited by battery. kinda similar to how aim 120a has a max range of 125 km at perfect launch parameters irl.
Well it doesn’t matter because r-77 has horrendous drag because of grid fins (and from what I’ve read, it seems that grid fins are actually surprisingly draggy (but they enable insane maneuverability characteristics, I can’t think of another arh missile not even mica that can have 45 degrees of aoa, even more than r-73))
As someone who has it and played it in tournaments: No
I mean bad is a strong word, but you are definitely just mid.
Doesn’t help that you do badly in this supposedly super overpowered and undertiered jet that you keep talking about.
the one i literally just got, with 4 matches in, at least one of them ending early bc i still had the counter measure selection from my last session on instead of all and therefore didnt manage to chaff a missile?
After your logic I should also find the luchs light tank insanely good bc i got a nuke in it once.
People digging for stats are embarassing
Yeah and since it’s a premium there is no stock grind to deal with.
If a premium is truely so overpowered and undertiered, then it should be incredibly easy to pick up and do well in from the get go.
I mean people making statements that conflict with their own statistics is equally embarassing.
decompression is needed, the j11a suffers as a result of it but j11a and su30mk2 at 13.3 is even worse
hes literally right though, in 99% of cases you are not going to be using datalink on r77s, and if you are its probably against a single target, the main advantage of r77 is how good it is <10 kms in a notch.
hardly mid, theyre equal in range to aim120a, and have very good maneuverabilty, better than pl12s imo, pulls less yes but it pulls alot and outranges pl12s + ive heard it kills more consistently because of bigger explosive
If you aren’t taking advantage of the ~85° gimbal then that’s on you, pitbull can do the job but DL is far more effective against an enemy with a brain
single target sure you arent using tws on a enemy within range of the r77 from a notch with such a bad radar.
