Su 30 unfair - no other airframe gets tvc atleast bring the function to premium or event vehicles

Game is just so unfair and not equal at all you don’t have any chance against R77-1 AMRAAM never get their full potential

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Su30 have bad energy retain. Never goes slow speed against them and you will win.

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You’re complaining about unfairness, and bring up a feature that doesn’t really make an aircraft actually better?

What benefit do the thrust vectoring engines give the Su-30s?

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TVC does nothing for the su30 in air rb

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Bro watched this and decided its unfair

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Omfg thank you, this is glorious 😂

Oh man videos like these always bring joy to my face.

Thanks for the gem

In my experience supermaneuvrability helps a ton in bvr fights, it prompts you to pull the nose harder allowing you to get a missile off much faster and then go back defensive, tvc helps even further.

I don’t really see how it’s unfair though because it has drawbacks, like speed bleed.


okay so everyone saying tvc doesn’t help are just lying or haven’t played the sm2, it’s got WAY more thurst and you can literally out dogfight anything you want, you can even get guns on better due to the increased thrust.

lmao a significant one in a 1v1 fight? literally what do you think you’re talking about here bro?

the increased thrust has nothing to do with TVC

can you even explain a significant benefit of TVC

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both air RB and 1v1 situations

TVC doesn’t help. Dogfights aren’t common. Inside dogfights, spinning in place with TVC does not ultimately mean you win a dogfight when you run out of energy.

either way even if you think TVC helps, the point of OP’s post is to say that specific feature is what makes the su30sm2 overpowered and implies other aircraft cant compete BECAUSE OF TVC.

I assumed you would be able to under the advantage was it’s dogfighting ability, I guess not, seriously it helps you pulls so much more aoa. I don’t think you know what you’re talking about in all honesty.

they’re common enough for it to matter, especially in the later part of a game. and are you a dishonest person? you don’t have to hold the button down the entire time? nor does tvc only activate once you disable aoa limits, just a certain speed

are we playing the same game at 14.7

Do you feel comfortable disrespecting others for no reason?

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I have my fair share of dogfights/ 1v1s and I don’t care for an anecdotal argument, you implied it could only be used for spinning in circles, don’t be hyperbolic

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I think I do

also, see this dogfight tierlist made by one of the best duellists in the game: StatShark - See All Player, Missile, and Vehicle Statistics

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nice 3rd party site jpeg, doesn’t really matter though lol, and I don’t care about your friends list tbh