Guess what folks. Another list another instance of handholding.
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Gaijin could give them dual pylons (dual PL-12 wing pylons for MKK and dual R-77 pylons for MK2) and move them both to 13.7
they dont need any more missles. they need to move up either way
Thing’s literally better than many 13.7s why do we have to buff them even more just to move them.
I really dont think they need more missles, they have more missles and better missles than the 13.7 F16CM with other advantages that make it certainly 13.7-14.3 worthy
So they are equal to their TT counterpart? (Su-27SM)
That flanker is also under-br’d. You really think they’re equals to any F-16A at 13.7?
So you’re telling me that the Su-27SM should be same or .3 br lower than the Su-30SM, Eurofighter and F-15GE??
with 8 short range ARHs, the worst RWR and radar at its br and flanker fm
It’s more than on par with some 14.0s. More missiles than 15E and mirage. Better radar than mirage. RWR has small coverage but you can solve it by… rolling. Flanker FM was buffed and it turns better than even some light fighters.
We seriously shitting on 27sm fm when the superhornet and F-15C fm exists at higher br?
This is 2026, not 2024.
idk the game needs decompression
Yeah. Moving the Su-30mks up is part of that decompression however. They’re blatantly undertiered. We have F-16AMs with 45 cms and no hmd with 6 mid-120s at a higher br than this thing.
They did fine when raf/euro/sm2 were 14.3. They’ll do fine at 13.7.
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27SM is better than every 14.0 rn
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is that really a high bar if half the 14.0s are hornets?
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And in grb it used to be
R77, r27er, r73 pl8, ld10, kh31p, kh29t
Vs
Aim7m, aim9l, harm (only us), agm62 erdl (only us), agm65
On same br. Not even mentioning weapon quantity difference. And all they did was just compressing brs further in grb.
This just proves they will harm game and undo their progress instead of losing all those potential su30 paypigs.
And their response to community begging for change was “muhh no 13.7 because they will suffer against 14.7”. For some reason it wasnt concern for iriaf. And they didnt think if 12.3 jets suffer against su30s.
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True, it isn’t really
The only 14.0 that really comes close is the M2K, but the 27SM has the better kit and setup for 16v16
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Mate, I do not know how long you have been playing but the game IQ has gone down considerably from players in the last five years. But, would wouldnt you know Gaijins net income five years ago was 50 to 60 million USD. Now it sits at 130 to 150 million, this is only its Hungarian holdings. It doesnt count multiple entities in Cyprus, Germany, Latvia, Dubai, and Armenia.
Because Ive been playing since Beta I have watched this influx of Premium aircraft, I have some, but I never bought one until I was about a Level 90 or so pilot. I didnt buy them to grind I just happened to like the aircraft, SLs and Research didnt even factor into the choice.
Withstanding the graphics…I wonder if the developers even play the game, whoever makes the BR ratings…etc. This company no longer cares about the gameplay itself, but money. It is a business no doubt, but in any business, regardless of what kind - the most important person in the building is the CUSTOMER. Good Luck to You, I have lost a lot of interest in this game and get tired of fighting 2 v 10s, particularly at top tier because I end up with a bunch of people who didnt “earn” their way to top tier with experience, but bought their way in.
For some reason, Gaijin thinks the Su-30MKK/MK2 is on the same level as the MiG-29SMT.
when in fact it is superior to the MiG-29M.
It’s a strong 13.7, but for some reason Gaijin believes it’s on the same level as the JF-17 (which is a strong 13.3, yet still looks like a toy next to the Su-30).
It’s bizarre that the Kfir C10 has the same BR as the Su-30, and it’s bizarre that the F-14A IRIAF has a higher BR than the Su-30.
Even compared to the J-11A, the Su-30 is better; in theory, the J-11A is an overpowered 13.3, but its RWR is so bad that it significantly diminishes the aircraft’s impact on the match…a flaw the Su-30 doesn’t have.
I really don’t understand why Gaijin is so conservative in changing the br of the SU27SM and SU30 Premium.
It’s ridiculous for the Su-30 to be at 13.3; it’s unjustifiable.
It is absurd to keep the Su-27SM at 13.7 while the F-15E/I, F-18C Late/D, and Mirage 2000-5F are at 14.0.
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yeah right. go play more the su30mkk and come back and we’ll have a talk
This baby works just fine. I am a big watermelon in the air and in need of assistance.
Maybe we should lower the br of the other aircraft you mentioned as well.