Su-27SM: Ferocious Flanker!

i think he meant 2

Russia suffers i guess

Further on down the road KH-38s would’ve been more on I think everyone’s annoyance with them or frustration is how OP they are especially paired with the best SPAA in the game by far. AGM-65s are garbage and very very easy to shoot down so there isn’t really a counter to either the Pantsir or the SU25SM3 right now. I’m hoping maybe the AIM-120s will fix that problem since I will be able to take 2 AIM-120s along with all my ground ordnance on my F16. (For counter to SU25SM3)

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Except, BLUFOR doesnt have an inherent advantage at top tier in sim, barring the flexibility of the F-16C and Gripen allowing them to do multiple roles with one jet. Smokeless motors arent a particularly major issue like many REDFOR players like to pretend they are, and the avionics difference, though noticeable on some jets like the Su-27 and its older RWR isnt a massive issue either.

REDFOR has some notable advantages in sim as well, with R-73’s being much more useable in a dogfight, R-27ER’s being unmatched, R-27ET’s having literally no analogues in BLUEFOR trees, and some better dedicated CAS in the form of the Su-25/39 for convoy strike missions and battlefields.

Top tier sim is asymmetrical, but definitely not unbalanced in BLUFORs favor. Pretending that it is is actually the exact thing i was pointing to when I originally stated that I wondered what REDFOR will use as an excuse for being quitters now that the Su-27SM fixes all the disadvantage that REDFOR had in the first place, leaving REDFOR with the clear advantage now

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that doesnt fit their argument

I noticed the TGP wasn’t mentioned in the dev blog, consider adding it if it wasn’t planned (Saspan-E)

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It will get new AL-31FM1 (Series 42) engines with bigger thrust or will remain same engines like on old Su-27? Both are historically correct.

be happy to get one of the best ground pounder of all

Not this variant

mid without tgp

fatass plane that gets spotted by eyeballs mk1

still outranging several top tier spaa

Seems to stay the same. Only a later batch of SMs recevied the new Engine initially anyway.

Nice yap. It’s always the US mains crying about balance when they don’t instantly get 104-0 in their F-15 they just got after playing whatever mindless premium they shelled out on. They see all the documentaries and phonk edits and think that skill on their part is irrelevant. The meta is flight performance but that’s something that requires braincells to capitalise on.

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Sapsan never existed

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All top tier CAS can out range top tier AAs if you wanna sling Paveways from far enough ;p

→ Literally only played REDFOR jets for the last month or 2
→ Gets called a US main

God I hate REDFOR players, too busy trying to get their hand out of the tub of glue their mom packed for their lunch to properly read something

There’s stamped documents saying it did.

why dont you say the same about f16c then

or the a6e tram at 10.0

24 pieces of Su-27SM received them. In that case, quite a disappointment. Those engines were the only reason I was looking forward to this Su-27SM.

I kinda like your optimism because that same argument was drawn to the F-15A back in the day, yet the thing flopped harder than the subprime crisis because it wasn’t on par with the Gripen and the Su-27, and still today it’s only reliable asset is the flight model which in 16v16 can’t be used that extensively to gain a significant advantage compared to the R-27ER to deny positional advantages or the +700 CMs the Gripen has.

That being said, the F-15C will have AIM-120s and should bring HMD too as a QoL improvement over the first F-15, so i’ll wait for the dev server to see how they cooked the plane, as the aforementioned features i pointed should really be the difference between a mediocre experience in the F-15A and a really competitive F-15C.

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