Su-27SM: Ferocious Flanker!

export MiG-29s didn’t suck, the MiG-29 is just the worst 4th gen airframe in general

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If Russia had enough sources to fund enchanced Mig-29’s prototypes situation would’ve been different.

But we’re not living a world where if’s are means anything.

Plenty of UA pilot obituaries if you dont believe either side is taking losses you are a fool.
I also commented on the UK MoD intelligence report and how the A-50 data linking the R-37M has had a huge impact.

MiG 29 is fast…fast jets can run missiles out of energy, you are comparing it to an “older airframe”

It’s fine war isnt a sporting competition, being dismissive of other nations capabilities just makes one look foolish.

The scenario I gave you was switching that UA MiG 29 with an F-15 its down low to avoid SAMs and. We are not talking both aircraft at 40kft. The shot was taken by a MIG 31NBM at 45kft to hit a UA MiG 29 flying low and cold back to a UA airbase.

Russian electronics are behind NATOs no one disputes that.

Export ones do they didnt have the best RADAR, RWR or missiles

the MiG-29 never had the best radar, RWR, or missiles

Kind of why Russia was operating the Su-27 then

Couldnt care less about what you think about me tbh.

If speed was the only thing that matters then Mig-25 would’ve been the best jet all times, sadly thats not how it works,especially against modern Fox-3 missiles.

Thats the thing, F-15 wouldnt be in that scenario in the first place.

See the difference?

Not really, Ukraine has very old Mig-29’s that doesnt have proper RWR,Radar or Jamming Suites.

Modern Mig-29’s does have much better situational awareness compare to those old Ukraine Mig-29’s which increases your survivability quite a lot.

This is like comparing Mig-29 (9.13) to Mig-29SMT, see the difference?

Urakine Mig-29 fleet is on par with most Mig-29SMT, even the 9-12A/B batch from Slovak, Bulga, … received upgraded Radar to use R-77.

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Su-25 does…1000kph…Energy is how you defeat a FOX 3 missile you drain it of its energy.
Why do you think modern jets care about being high and fast for optimum weapon release.

We didnt say it would your words swap the MiG 29 with (insert any western jet here)

he means MiG-25

Yeah, like the same comparison between T-72M with 3BM6 versus M1A2 you all proud of.

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Just like bombs that fall on houses right after jets taking off the airfield?
We kinda have an example what and how everything works because of the war

the F-15A was out years before the MiG-29 and was better when it went into service mate

Thats fair and yes if i was having a missile shot at me and i can fly mach 3.0 I would feel better about it.
If im 100 miles away and flying at mach 3.0 im even happier

Not all, Mig-29 in Ukraine kinda versertile, still has some footage it attached GBU to throw and shoot down some UAV but that’s all since they don’t have air dominance.

Different doctrines, Russia built a front line fighter to protect its border, US built an air supremacy fighter to project power

i mean the MiG-29 has always just been mediocre

Yet it still doesnt have proper situational awareness or Jamming suites against modern missiles, radar upgrades isnt enough alone if you didnt noticed.

Like that F-35 that crashed yesterday, things go wrong with these machines.

I can guarantee the UA guys on the ground being pounded by FAB 500 UPG kits wish more would go wrong.