Su-27SM: Ferocious Flanker!

No proof.
Mig-29 in Iraq got clapped by AIM-120, it the same fate as Mig-29 clapped by R-37M currently.

If it “Ukraine Mig-29’s Airframe, it will be game changer”
If it “Anyone else Mig-29’s Air frame, it will be the worst gen 4 jet”

That all i can see.

But off topic so please stop.

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Russia put all their eggs in the Su-27 basket for a reason

They does. It’s about consistency though and that’s one of the biggest flaws with soviet/russian tech

no proof that the F-15 entered service in 1976 and the MiG-29 entered service in 1983, wut??
and a lot of migs in iraq were destroyed by AIM-9 and AIM-7

Apolgies merely pointing out the R-37M could be a viable BVRAAM to the Meteror, Aim260 and PL15

I mean Mig-29 actually had potantial to become a really good fighter, for example prototype 9.15 model fixed almost every weaknesses that original Mig-29 had.

Problem was Russia didnt have enough budget to fund both company.

Wouldn’t one of the last R-77 variants fit better that role?

MiG would never be able to carry enough fuel and Russia doesnt operate an aerial refueling doctrine like the US/NATO does.

F-16 says hello.

It was designed to be frontline fighter yet it was much better then Mig-29 in almost every area except WVR because of HMD+R-73 combo.

Range difference is too much R-77M (is a 65-70 mile weapon) for fighter sized targets the same as the AIM-120D (publicly released information that is)
The AIM 260, PL-15 and Meteor are all 110 mile + missiles. Then it depends on if Gaijin decide to model battery life for the missiles.

MiG-29 doesn’t even have that advantage anymore considering how badly the R-73 missile platform has aged

9.15 had 2200km service range due to new improved engines and additional fuel tanks.

Safe to say it was more then enough.

Its true that Mig-29 Lost its only advantage against other jets in WVR category, but still for its time it was quite good.

You not even know what the role of those two planes.

Normal people will think like this:
F-16 vs Mig-29
F-15 vs Su-27.

Then can i ask: Which aspects make F-15 better then Mig-29 ?

Which in combat can be burned in 15 minutes even quicker if at low altitude. It’s not enough fuel to loiter on station which is what a frontline cap aircraft needs. Not my opinion well documented the thirsty engines hampered the MiG 29

Genuinely believe they need to add the R-77-1 to counter the AAM-4 and PL-12 if they are modeled correctly

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-Superior flight performance
-Much better situational Awareness
-Better ECM suites
-Better A2A and A2G capabilities
-Better Effective Range
-Better Survivability

Are those enough or do you need more?

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I’m soory but where is a new Event? It was Tanks, Jets, Ships, Then Tanks, YAK-3 , but where is ship? Do we skip it? Or There will be event like MadMax?

Which F-15 are we talking about?

Because the AN/APG-63(V)3 paired with late variant AIM-120C-7 and AIM-120D missiles both makes it a longer range BVR fighter but also better ECM since AESA can Jam