but not F-4s maybe f-16s. Saying stupid shit like this ruins your credibility on this topic completely (not you but the other guy).
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agreed, Su-27 may not be great, but it isnt no phantom
F-16 can dump Su-27 pretty easily, especially if the fight becomes prolonged.
Only Eurofighter Typhoon,Rafale,JAS-39 and F-22 can challenge F-16 in rate fight.
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or even the munition that was in service by then (the AIm 120 C 5, not the A, or B…)
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yeah but F-4s loose. Su-27 has better missles, radar and still a better flight modell. Loosing to an F-4E is impossible if the pilot knows what he is doing. That’s the reason why it’s lower in br and not fucking 12.3
İf anyone doubts how utterly garbage the Su-27 is alongside R-73, feel free to add me for 1v1 trials.
I’ll beat you every single time in the F-16 or Gripen. 1 Circle 2Circle doesn’t matter, come at me
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is that ingame or in real life?
İRL Su-27 should have a great shot in 1C, but in the game it’s so horrible that it loses in any scenario to over bufffed UFO-16
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Because its lighter and smaller than the flying boat su27?
what about the F-4E you mentioned? Now it’s not good enough anymore?
İt doesn’t work like that.
SU-27 SHOULD beat it in 1C, in game it can’t in RB.
By your logic Mig-21 should beat F-4E in sustained rate fight.
“iTs smAllEr aNd LigHtER”
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Come at me in your overhyped russian bias Su-27
Any proof of this?
no russian jet comes close to the smts radar except the 29k and mig 29m
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Any proof that being smaller and lighter means this?
By your logic Mig-21 should beat F-4E in sustained rate fight.
“iTs smAllEr aNd LigHtER”
I dont have it and I don’t need it to know that a fucking 11.0 planes looses to a 12.7 plane.
Can good pilots beat the su-27 with a biplane? Yes but that doesn’t mean it’s worse
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accurate, there is a whole lot of cope going on rn - must have really believed how su27 is “one of the best duelists in the game” from the dev blog. Sure u can clap people who dont know what they are doing and get some lucky shots through pre flares here and there by full sending it for r73 shots but thats about it. Against a good f16 or grippen the su27 is getting floored like 7/10 times.
I told you to come in su-27 against my F-16 or gripen. None is 11.0.
Are you incapable of reading?
Or just too scared?
You just said it twice now, if you have proof that the su-27 can beat the f16c in 1C then bring it on, i’ve checked DCS the F16C wins in a dogfight.
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Sad part is, all the F-16/Gripen needs to do is open periodic flare, and hold W. They will win 9/10
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