Storm Warning - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 3)

I’m literally holding out for the Su-30SM, like the moment it releases, I’m downloading the patch ASAP, GE’ing the plane, the crew, and probably half the equipment. It’s literally the only plane I’ve wanted to play since I started playing again almost three years ago. I totally get what you mean about wanting the F-2A.

Very true.

I don’t know Japan well enough. What could you put at about 9.7-11.0 that gives you some decent guided weaponry?

Ah. I see. Well, as you know, the C&P is easy because in many cases it’s just a reskin, F-2 is a different, albeit similar model to the F-16’s.

I feel the same about the Su-30SM. Some say TVC is too good, most just say Gaijin needs time to make it work. Either way, they could’ve just added some cheesy animations to the nozzles, artificially juiced up the FM for a patch or two and then done a “rework” down the line.

That’s what Gaijin has said, especially in relaying the reasons for the patch when people ask about why not this or why that? etc. that we’ve seen in the discourse since the trailer.

Cheers for the correction on the progression bits. But yeah, I thought Italy definitely had some domestic bits going, wouldn’t have made sense for them to have pulled their weight in the G.91 project and then twiddke their thumbs between developing the Tornado and Typhoon.

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I was hoping they’d add that this update for y’all!

At the very least it’s leaked by Olivia so next update most likely. I just wish Japan had some kind of reassurance like that. When the leakers have zero info it’s a bit worrying for sure

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Stuff like the T-1A/B and P-1

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I will feast on the enjoyment of the Su-30SM no matter what comes, but I will be an honorary bitter Japanese main until they give y’all the F-2, the delay is getting silly tbh.

All we can really rest on is they’ve made solid moves to keep you guys viable, even if slow and somewhat small. Type 81(c), F-16AJ, Thai subtree… they are trying. At the end of the day, Gaijin runs on Western wallets, and even if you’re a Westerner like I am, a premium F-1X or M1 Abrams for Gaijin makes them plenty more cash than a faithful rendition of TT vehicle for a less interesting (for the masses) nation like Japan.

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There were some interesting projects like to make a VTOL from G.91, the plane was called G.95.

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Another cool idea which was dropped probably because of US influence is Leone, a sad story:

PS it’s also very sad that Romanian IAR-95 wasn’t made.

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I’d rather have the F-2 now and Thailand, whenever later

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At this point I don’t even care about viable, I just want that aircraft.

I don’t care if it doesn’t have HMD or has a placeholder radar or w/e. I just want a slightly better F-16AJ with AAM-3 and AAM-4 and a drogue chute.

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Christ I know us Brits made some awful things but that looks cursed

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I guess yeah since they did fly it about to try it out and then pass it over for the Crusader.
But like, that’s an aircraft that Japan can get, and one that iirc would be better than the version the US could get.

From Wikipedia Japan never used the F-11F

No, but they ordered (purchased and ordered the production of) 100 F-11F-1F Super Tigers. Said order was cancelled after it was made because the devil- I mean, Lockheed spent a bajillion dollars bribing politicians around the globe to buy their garbag- I mean, asked some governments nicely to buy their F-104.
Japanese actor flew his private plane into the residence of the prime minister over the scandal, too.

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But never manufactured? Just as fake as the AJ, but with no justification?

The Super Tiger did exist, and unlike the AJ, the Japanese actually spent money to buy it.

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And then cancelled order. And the super tiger only existed in US testing and evaluation, never once touched Japanese soil

And?
edit: if someone has the source, I remember reading that Japanese pilots DID fly the plane to evaluate it.

Never heard of that before.

How unlike Lockheed. You’d think a company that commits to manufacturing weapons of war might have moral scruples, and would avoid such acts of bribery

Oh well… lol

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It’s totally fake? Japan never got them, just like they never had F-16, it’s just as fake as the AJ

Its literally not. Literally the F-11F-1F but with a hinomaru.
No faker than a T-80 for Sweden. Which Gaijin would never do, right?

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That’s was how they added AJ? “Just an f16 with a hinomaru” it is completely made up, there is no Japanese super tiger

And at least the swedes tested it no?