This, and I really think they need to either make aircraft spawn on the ground, or much further away from the tank fight.
CAS should never allowed to ripple of AGM’s within seconds of spawning is my biggest complaint.
Even if we had better AA, and even if CAP was more affordable, CAS should never be allowed free reign to get off a full first strike before any counter has had time to react or respond.
True XD, but at this point I think that has a better possibility of happening over some actual useful systems to deal with CAS from the ground. And even if they do add good ground systems, I can almost guarantee they’ll immediately add the proper weaponry to counter them like HARMs.
clearly someone doesnt know how to use tall ACM well
Well, in Q&A, they said better SAM’s are being worked on and there’s no plans for ARM’s anytime soon, so that’s promising.
But tbh, even if they did add ARM’s, I’d be fine with it. SPAA after all can turn their radars off, bait the CAS in close, and then go hot again lol.
Some actual fun back and forth, skill based counterplay between CAS/SEAD and SPAA would be a damn sight better than this current slop of AA just getting overwhelmed by AGM’s, launch by planes from outside their range.
yeah, unfortunately on a lot of maps the map boarders would need to be expanded because on some they are less than 20km from the battlefield
Even if they wanted to be lazy, They could just multiply the spawn distance on the maps big enough to permit it, and ground spawn on those which don’t.
I think they really should have added at least the very early ARM’s right after the pantsir once it was clear how much better than everything else it was
they’re just not a priority, but they are being worked on afaik
Even the general ground play area to me is rather small for top tier, I don’t think they need to be overly massive but also not every map needs to be this kind of closed in knife fighting match where we have like 1 or 2 lanes of movement. That’s another issue with the current SPAA as well is most have nowhere to go other than spawn, especially if its larger bus vehicles like the ITO, FLAKRAK, and Pantsir lol.
Again though, I don’t think Pantsir is OP. Better than everything else? Absolutely, but not OP.
Even Pantsir can get completely overwhelmed by AGM / GBU spam - all of which he needs his radar up to detect. Making him deal with ARM’s on top of this, and forcing him to shut off his radar would just hard counter him out the match.
And as always when we discuss ‘counters to Pantsir’ in this CAS arms race, it’s always important to remember 9/10 countries don’t have one. Any crazy thing you add to counter a Pantsir, an ADATS / ITO / Tor etc, all things already massively struggling, will have to face it too.
honestly the only way I could see clusterbombs being useful is gps guided versions
I do… this doesn’t fix anything?
I still have some hopium that this list isn’t entirely true, mainly because I main Japan and I would at least like a few other ASEAN countries to be added into the Japan tree. Not all of them of course but some.
it literaly lets you make off boreshots with r73
I swear, everytime I come into RR I somehow, inevitably get into / create a discussion about SPAA lmao.
I’m as a bad as the Brit moaners, ASEAN copers and US players dooming over euro-canards xD
I know they would also hurt other countries, but at least then it would make all AA struggle at times instead of AA being as inbalanced as it is now
At least that’s a more pressing matter than the others, at least imo lol
They did later confirm that ASEAN going to China was rolled back. There was a Leopard 2A4 from Singapore under China found in the files, but it’s not there anymore.
Hopefully it goes to Japan or something.
AA discusion is much more important than many other common topics because it really is a mess right now
though honestly if they just gave launch warnings for the pantsir like literaly every other SACLOS SAM at top tier it wouldnt be that bad