poor soul
As long as you get close enough so that you can perform the colonoscopy on the enemy pilot, sure.
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How come my friend usally gets 4/4 R60M kills
His manhood is probably massive and he plays only when mercury is in retrograde.
The stock bombs is the most it could get. As it doesn’t qualify for stock missiles.
Where do they say this?
Last i checked the testing done against the R-73 was with the Aim-9L, not the Aim-9M.
Which makes sense given thats what is available in Germany at the time. To the point where the US doesn’t export the missile to Germany and they later modify their 9L stock to have IRCCM.
Not “Russian Bias” as others have pointed out cause 9Ls are much better than say R-60Ms
What I have to add is that I think top rank aircraft should get stock Fox-1s. At least for 12.3/12.7. R-27R, AIM-7F, Skyflash standard, etc.
But i think still AIM-7f is not something to compare with R27R
Disagree, but they’re also stock missiles so it doesn’t matter all that much for balancing
The point of stock SARH is to give all stock aircraft better capabilities to fight spaded aircraft, not each other
R-24R would be a better stock missile as it is better in closerange rather than trying to go long range with r27r
It was the 9m. But they were specifically simulating close in dog fights and target acquisition was considered a kill.
Wont claim to speak to IRL but in WT, I like the 9ms abilities more so than a more maneuversble missile with better rear aspect. Ive found im able to time my flares and maneuver for 73s just fine but if im not constantly scanning a 9m will surprise me. To me exploiting a pilots ability to be situationally aware seems stronger.
But im still learning so maybe im wrong.
Where do they say this?
Like the mention ive seen talking about the results specify it being 9L. So if there is something that says otherwise im interested in seeing it.
There are some pilot quotes here.
Of course its all to be taken with a grain of salt when we dont know exact test parameters or if there is information games being played.
if you are talking about the comments in the comment section. That is reffering to the HMS slaving on the Mig-29, not the missiles ability to aquire targets.
So while the HMS slaving is in no secret a major capability the Mig-29 had with no western contemporaries, thats not what i was wondering about.
Because i know the german tests commented on among other things the R-73 and its issues with clouds (not sure if that was in comparison to any other missile) and that it has supirior aquisition speed to the Aim-9. Those comments reffer to the Aim-9L specifically.
And with the comments you linked say either 9L/9M, which makes sense since they have the same queuing, gimbal limits, and manuverability (at least for the early variants anyways)
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“The R-73 is a highly manoeuvrable missile that in most respects is believed to be superior to the United States AIM-9M Sidewinder, a fact demonstrated by the reunified German Luftwaffe winning all dogfight engagements with their MiG-29/R-73 combine against the F-16/AIM-9M combination fielded by the USAF, prompting the development of Sidewinder and other SRM successors like AIM-132 ASRAAM, IRIS-T, MICA IR, Python IV and the latest Sidewinder variant, AIM-9X, that entered squadron service in 2003.”
So refers to the same test where HMD is the deciding factor.
Again not really reffering to missile seeker capabilities which is the “unknown” here.
Edit: tho very fair enough that they are saying the F-16 without HMD + 9M is worse than Mig-29 with HMD + R-73.
But that at least for me not the aspect i care about
first of all, yes the r73 has good mobility. It does tend to spin itself out, but yes. second, yes it has irccm. the aim9L has great rear aspect flare resistance, you just have to use them correctly, so don’t act like they are r60’s. The r60 simply isn’t competitive at top tier, especially with the amount of jets that have a crazy amount of flares. The r60 has a MASSIVE fov, and will go for almost every flare that you send. I say almost because i have been killed once or twice in rear aspect by a r60 while dumping flares, but it’s pretty rare. The aim9L is superior to the r60 is basically every way except its speed when it initially comes off the rails, however the range makes up for that very easily. The aim9L has an effective range of around 3km I have found, and the only way I seem to get a 100% kill with the r60 is within 1.5km. The r60 cannot compete at top tier, and you crying about the aim9L not being competitive is just a simple skill issue lol.