Stock grinds at top tier are attrocious in current meta POLL

and assuming they defeat it?

What do you do next?

Run away?

You are slower than most fighters already in game.

Turn fight?

You’ll loose that as well.

Except F-35s stealth isnt optical, ie. it can be detected by the ye olde eyeball mk.1, and guess what, 2-3 miles is still within the range at which players are detected with markers in both AAB and ARB.

you got a gun and a radar gun sight dont miss and assuming this is the F35 youll have a IRST system which will be useful and vtol

yeah so stay out of there sight dont be aggressive sneak up on them flank it just a different playstyle its not hard considering most players are below average in this game and just use missiles

This was terrible before dude.

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literally best war thunder ever was mig 29s and SU27s vs F15As and F16As was so peak FOX-3 ruined the gamee

which is it, mr. know it all?

you cant both stay out of marker range and engage in combat with sidewinders.

No, this is completely false information

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you dont have to be in there sight to launch them you can be behind them pulling up on there flank while they spam missiles its sad how painfully unaware most players are

So… the same as everyone else at top tier with a worse FM

Im starting to have doubts if you know what radar, RWR and MAW are, or what is the average engagement range for sidewinders.

Mig-29 vs F-16 sucked for everyone that didnt have either

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So pretending that the M2K-5 and Grippen don’t exist and crushed everything before fox 3 is your move rn?

yea they where strong but not unkillable and not many played sweden as how painful the grind was at the time

Bruh there were hundreds or thousands of them, simply because they were the best planes before fox 3

literally everyone has F18 now the meta would be peak now as everyone has a dogfighter now would love to see the meta come back as a no FOX-3 mode would be fun mode

I disagree, for top tier it is enough to get a few kills and then unlock them, i am more worried with mid tier jets that have to stock grind with guns.

What are you talking about, this is pure fantasy and delusion

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i dont remeber seeing that many at all. i only seen a few of them far more F15A and F16s then those

So. F-18 vs F-16 vs Gripen?

That would suck.

And top tier would be Typhoon vs Rafale.