meanwhile f-5c kept going up.
yeah f5c went up after they added the a10s and su25s because its the easiest plane to absolutely dog on them in
no, the f.5c went up because it was OP back then when nuking phoenixes didn’t do shit to them and the m39s were able to reach up to 3km of distance and one-shot everything they touch. I literally could carry my own bomb, shoot it mid-air to troll someone else, and still have enough of a clean undamaged vehicle to rawdog four other people before committing to a mig23 and kill it head on with an aim9e while i still have enough of an airframe to stay alive on chat and kackle incontrollably before the auto J system tells me it’s enough and I gotta leave the plane in 3, 2, 1 and go to the hangar. Now it’s one of the fragilest planes in the entire rank where a single “critical hit” is enough to completely put it out of airworthiness like how it completely loses control once it loses only the rudder instead of the vert stab, or turns like a 104 when getting a red horizontal fin, as well as the fact previous 9.7 aircraft were moved to 9.3, and that m39s are some of the shortest range and slowest terminal velocity shells in game now with a deceleration worse than that of DEFAs.
Wrong; it became 11.0 once after decompression in July 2024, then got back to 10.7 in Oct 2024 after tons of US mains yapped about that.
It was even faster than when J-7D came down from 11.0 to 10.7.
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this is true, i recall a post addressing that f-5c and e were the same br.
F-5C doesn’t belong at 11.0 even on it’s current state, learn to spiral scissors it.
It’s better than at least like three 11.0 BR fighters (Kfir Gderot especially lmao) so it definitely should be at least 11.0
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john stop flagging my posts for addressing your lack of reading comprehension to which you respond with cuss words.
People however fail to address that literally anything that is not an f105 or an Su17 or an a10 can outdogfight all the f-5s.
The MiG21s outdogfight the f-5s in every mode except long rate fights, which can disengage from at will.
The J35s whoop the f-5s clean in every mode and can disengage from at any time too.
The F8s can go one circle all the time, disengage, return and repeat.
The F-4E’s can one circle them at super slow speed after a scissor reversal.
The J8B’s can deal with them same as MiG21s
The Mirages as well but worse
The Su25 can scissor the f-5s
The Viggens clown the f-5s in every instance
The J7E’s as well
The MiG23MLD’s outrate them at high speed and out one circle them at low speed
The A7D one circles them
F-5 especially C and A Taiwan is a shitty zero. The zero at least wins most turnfights.
F-5s are slower than the next slowest thing in rank 7/8 and are often outperformed in armament, energy retention to maneuverability trade (You can’t have both in F-5s, it’s either energy retention and turning wider than an An225 or maneuverability and becoming a sitting duck taking 1 minute to go from 600 ias to 900 ias (f-5c) and 20 seconds for f-5e) and they fly on rails so it’s ridiculously easy to dodge them any time in a close encounter at high speed.
SEPECAT Jaguar
Blackburn Buccaneer
Panavia Tornado (Both F/GR)
Hawker Siddeley Harrier/Sea Harrier
Super Étendard
Hunter F.6/F.58
Hawk 200
Wants to say hi.
???
You are living in alternative reality.
Hawk 200
SEPECAT Jaguar
Sea Harrier FRS.1
and some other subsonic jets are slower than F-5.
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SEPECAT Jaguar
Blackburn Buccaneer
Panavia Tornado (Both F/GR)
Hawker Siddeley Harrier/Sea Harrier
Super Étendard
Hunter F.6/F.58
Hawk 200
Wants to say hi.
Bruh I definitely forgot about the attackers. Except the Su25 yes pretty much every one of them suffers against the f-5s. British tech tree is indeed a pain in the rump to play around that BR and no I can’t say DUH play fighters when there’s literally none and the ones you have are PREMIUM. Ah, the F58 is able to outdogfight f-5s at slow speed. And yes I recall saying the f-5c is the slowest afterburning fighter jet in the lobby from 10.7 onward. The SEPECATs are awful and I tend to spare them most of the time.
You are living in alternative reality.
Yes, but not as much as those who still believe f-5s have their laser guns and nuke proof damage models from 2021.
someones now trying to change the reason they think F-5 is bad it seems.
Its a high speed STR fighter.
just because youve met another blatantly overpowered vehicle it doesnt suddenly make all prior F-5 related threads irrelevant
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Attackers?
You can outdogfight either Tornado GR.1 or F.3
Strange, you were calling the F-5C the slowest supersonic jet, then the slowest jet.
Now you are telling slowest afterburning fighter jet.
Nice try to move the goalposts.
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you once again fail to address that the F-5 is not a HIGH SPEED STR fighter, but a straggler catcher aka support vehicle.
just because youve met another blatantly overpowered vehicle it doesnt suddenly make all prior F-5 related threads irrelevant
The J7D ruins everyone else’s games, the f-5 at least people can disengage with and reengage trying something else that is not a flat two circle rate at sea level.
Nice try to move the goalposts.
not trying anything, the f-5c is the slowest afterburning fighter jet of rank 7, period. It was my first statement and it’s still true. None of the planes you mentioned are rank 7 fighters.
You can outdogfight either Tornado GR.1 or F.3
Skyflash SuperTEMP says hi.
Attackers?
Yes? Cause the fighters you mentioned there DO CAN indeed outdogfight the f-5.
You’re just a ravaging beef addict Stockhoilm. FOR ONCE I AGREE WITH YOU you STILL crave blood. Man, go touch grass please.
J7D is a fine 10.7 there are far worse vehicles at said br def shouldnt be 11.3 tho as its a MF mig 21 with a bit better engine but it over heats a lot and better missiles and thats at 10.3 i dont think this thing facing 12.3s with rear aspect missiles would be fair it could be 11.0 again if they ever decompress the br range but thats never gonna happen
the F5C should just get AIM-9Js honestly like the F5A/E as theres like 20 F5s in game now
No to all.
what ? no to what
none of what you said are good points. The J7D is 98 percent mig21 bis with more flares and better missiles 0.3br lower. F-5s getting aim9j’s will uptier them even more. F-5C should be 10.0 with no flares nor missiles.
i guess supersonic (transonic at the very worst) turning isnt high speed anymore. If youre not controlling your turns to stay above at leat 0.98 mach you are being an absolute fool.
they both ruin it for everyone else.
At the J7D is just a MIG-21 without extreme modification like the later china fishbeds. hardly any canon ammo and a medocre radar. also far less countermeasure shots.
Jaguar GR.1
requires the tonka to get nose on. Its not unless you and your 900+ games in the F-5 did something really stupid
which clearly you dont, K/D of 2.81. Its incredibly obvious that despite your poor aim (confirmed in previous F-5 whine posts) you do incredibly well.
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Hu?
‘Slowest supersonic’
‘Slowest jet in rank 7/8’ (slower than next slowest thing)
Then now you are saying “I meant fighters only!”
Slapping SARH missile isn’t “outdogfighting”
No?
You said anything which aren’t
F-105
Su-17
A-10
can outdogfight F-5s.
And shooting it down with SuperTEMP isn’t outdogfighting.
Ah, you are vegan? People get edgy when they aren’t having enough amount of protein.
And according to the number of post which you spammed about F-5C in this forum
I reckon you are the one who needs to eat some grass.
Probably touching wouldn’t be enough.
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