Even if the user count was in 1000, I stand by what I said - its a tool and how it is used is entirely on user. If I had access to it (not that i will in the foreseeable future), I simply wouldnt be responsible that some other user is being more toxic due to it.
Were rapidly approaching collective guilt territory.
Publicly accessible data is public and can therefore be accumulated by a 3rd party, oh dear its the end of the universe.
no it doesnt. we can look at your stats mid match, whether its browser based or client we still get near enough the same information and can do with it as we wish, if people decide to be toxic with it they more than likley would find another reason to be no matter.
Im not responsible for another individual being a dick. Just as im not responsible for you being annoyed that stats are public, on the public video game
I’d say it’s more we’re approaching “does Gaijin enforce its ToS this time” territory (and if they do, it won’t be against the Statshark guys). There’s at least three clauses this app would seem to break on first glance. But I’m open to proof I’m wrong there.
which?
People are already scraping replays for stats, so you’d need to make replays hidden as well.
Which would these be? Not trying to be aggressive or anything, Im geniunely curious (as well as this kinda being my job lol).
What happens if you activate the privacy settings in game? Name, Leaderboards, whatever?
hides your name in the match. if someone knows your actual account name they can just look it up
And leaderboard?
just doesnt show in the match, and in your own replay as far as i know
Better honestly, the less players that use it the better
IANAL and we have incomplete info; but there are a few possibilities I can see in EULA clauses 3.2.1 through 3.2.9. Gaijin Terms of Service
I’ve seen dozens of other players get stat shamed, and it was always, ALWAYS because the other person realized the argument being made was valid.
Sadly, people like you just hide behind statshark as a way to ignore valid arguments.
the barebones services statshark offer should have an in house gaijin version that makes a site like statshark obsolete.
The ability to see what is going on in live matches im also fine with.
However this is an overlay which is creeping into the depths of 3rd party softwares to gain petty advantages (which tbh will boil down to “should i turn my plane around and J out on the airfield to statpad”) which prolly should be ToS violations and bannable offences
This also being paywalled is as scummy as maid for mods for other video games. and a legal nightmare for the distributor, Gaijin could throw a legal hand grenade at them quite easily
And presumably not in this app, just on the Statshark public website.
with how much data statshark is scraping out of war thunders servers, streamer mode is almost certainly a suggestion thats easy to ignore
Just because the argument was valid in your opinion doesn’t make it valid in general. That is the beauty of biases, we all have them, just to different extends.
the clause 3.2.6 certainly does seem like an issue that can be acted upon legaly even against statshark team.
as for 3.2.9, that would be open for interpretation.
or at least thats my opinion, hard to say without looking up relevant judicature.
either way my previous comment wasnt aimed at legality of statshark as to whos responsible for toxic behaviour.
I tend to check stats when they make a wild claim that i dont agree with to try and get context to them as a player.
Annoyingly, it tends to prove my suspicions right more often than not. Theres a very notable individual on the forums for his takes vs his skill that was caught out by this
You need to know who someone is to send them a lawyers letter. Regular players who Battle Eye flags on the other hand…
I honestly think much of the prior discussion is missing the point, you don’t use a service like this to single out the poor players on the other side, you are gonna probably kill them anyway. You use it so the 4-squad from the other country can identify the one good player playing solo in Air RB, knock them out together, then work on the rest. It’s the good players that might want to worry a little more here. Unless they have a few friends of their own ofc. Just saying bringing this into game as a paid service can cut both ways.
