Statshark's Live Game Viewer is really bad for the game's health

@Bruce_R1 Hadi just updated the FAQ on the website

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Nicely done.

My friend has been talking about this for a while now. A question i brought up to him about it that neither of us can find a answer to is. Is the actual app you download safe or not? I know they removed the dev that has a shady side.

I mean probably? I’m not ever going to download it though

Worst case it just steals accounts (not just WT) by encoding the credentials into the images it sends to be “analyzed”

How would it steal them if you one use the gaijin app to 2factor and never sign into anything else while using it? Also that then brings up the question. Does the live game tracker work without using the client?

I mean, you’re downloading, installing and running a program on your computer. That is always a risk if you don’t know where that program is coming from and don’t trust the source 100%.

Any program could theoretically do anything it wants if it can get around your anti virus. It could keep running in the background even if you close it and then keep starting itself at PC startup without you noticing it. Anything you do after that point can theoretically be saved in a file and sent to whomever.

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The funny thing is that when War Thunder switched to BattlEye, there were rumors that it could take screenshots from your computer and analyze them to detect cheating. Personally, I don’t think that was ever the case, but some players were literally panicking about it.

But when a third-party application, available on a website that was previously associated with a developer known for doing shady things in the past, releases a desktop app you have to run on your computer, and openly admits that it takes screenshots from your system and sends them to unknown online servers for analysis, suddenly everyone is fine with that.

It’s interesting how selective players are about what they choose to trust.

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Or it’s just different players.

anyone who claims they’re the best in the world at something, you can just disregard them anyways.

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I meant players in general. I don’t see anyone objecting to the idea of sending screenshots from players’ computers to unknown online servers for analysis. It doesn’t seem to raise any concerns among players.

There was ItsOnyy as minimum.

If you concern about it you just don’t install it. This is purely voluntary, and also not free (5$ a month). Probably there like only 2-3 people of all 46 users in this topic who even have access to statshark client and overall there are like ~500 people who can use it. Super small number and I think most don’t even use its live game viewer because it’s mostly useless and pretty slow

You see this in Siege aswell. People straight up quitting early in the match because their team has a lower KD than average. Then the teammates w/ lower KD perform amazingly but the original person is too stubborn to try playing again. Siege became an absolute hellscape from live match stats. You now can no longer have an opinion without having a certain KD, can’t be good because you aren’t a Champ every season since inception, can’t be a good teammate because your KD is below average. I could go on. It was even used back when DDoSsing was big. Just DDoS the player with a high KD! You win!

You can see why its a horrible idea, when most games w/ that type of system have some of the most unbearable communities known to man. I can already imagine what the already-pathetic WT players we all know (revenge bombers, teammates ramming/baiting/revealing location, etc.) will do when they get their hands on that.

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There’s a difference of kernel-level versus not kernel-level though.

A lot of people inherently don’t trust large companies and trust smaller developers more- including myself. I wouldn’t use either though.

Well yeah but if person with KD of 6.0 in M1A2 over hundreds of battles tells me Im playing Abrams wrong, at the very minimum I should think about what he is saying.

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which you can see in game through their account… you don’t need a live game viewer tool to check that.

Oh I see.

Never argued that live game viewer is neccesary for that. The original comment you replied to was meant as general comment on importance of being able to check people who comment on forums.

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I agree i don’t want my stats and stuff to be other website that i did not agree to have my info in it.
in war thunder it self i have the option to turn it off but that website track all of my stats somehow even i never ever used it.

the reason there are so many toxic players specially in war thunder i never seen that amount of toxic players in my life only on war thunder.

i only agree my stats and my stuff to be saved in war thunder it self no other third party websites.

i don’t disagree with them having tanks / planes / ships / helis stats and ammo stuff but people stats and profiles should be only in war thunder its self.

People will still be able to check your stats in game if there wasn’t an option to do so on Statshark, so you basically gained nothing.

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in wt you can use this option to hide your profile so players can’t see anything.
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