just doesnt show in the match, and in your own replay as far as i know
Better honestly, the less players that use it the better
IANAL and we have incomplete info; but there are a few possibilities I can see in EULA clauses 3.2.1 through 3.2.9. Gaijin Terms of Service
I’ve seen dozens of other players get stat shamed, and it was always, ALWAYS because the other person realized the argument being made was valid.
Sadly, people like you just hide behind statshark as a way to ignore valid arguments.
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the barebones services statshark offer should have an in house gaijin version that makes a site like statshark obsolete.
The ability to see what is going on in live matches im also fine with.
However this is an overlay which is creeping into the depths of 3rd party softwares to gain petty advantages (which tbh will boil down to “should i turn my plane around and J out on the airfield to statpad”) which prolly should be ToS violations and bannable offences
This also being paywalled is as scummy as maid for mods for other video games. and a legal nightmare for the distributor, Gaijin could throw a legal hand grenade at them quite easily
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And presumably not in this app, just on the Statshark public website.
with how much data statshark is scraping out of war thunders servers, streamer mode is almost certainly a suggestion thats easy to ignore
Just because the argument was valid in your opinion doesn’t make it valid in general. That is the beauty of biases, we all have them, just to different extends.
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the clause 3.2.6 certainly does seem like an issue that can be acted upon legaly even against statshark team.
as for 3.2.9, that would be open for interpretation.
or at least thats my opinion, hard to say without looking up relevant judicature.
either way my previous comment wasnt aimed at legality of statshark as to whos responsible for toxic behaviour.
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I tend to check stats when they make a wild claim that i dont agree with to try and get context to them as a player.
Annoyingly, it tends to prove my suspicions right more often than not. Theres a very notable individual on the forums for his takes vs his skill that was caught out by this
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You need to know who someone is to send them a lawyers letter. Regular players who Battle Eye flags on the other hand…
I honestly think much of the prior discussion is missing the point, you don’t use a service like this to single out the poor players on the other side, you are gonna probably kill them anyway. You use it so the 4-squad from the other country can identify the one good player playing solo in Air RB, knock them out together, then work on the rest. It’s the good players that might want to worry a little more here. Unless they have a few friends of their own ofc. Just saying bringing this into game as a paid service can cut both ways.
uh huh.
unfortunately not true as many people would testify; however im not interested in changing your mind specifically as ive seen what kind of person you are.
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Don’t forget if you wanted to challenge Gaijin some day if you feel their interpretation of this WAS wrong, you’d have to do it in Cyprus. :)
It is not entirely out of question to learn about who runs statshark. Id know about way or two, but that would require more information to pass any final verdict.
Entirely possible, however my issue with this is that such argument presumes anyone using live game viewer does so to “stat snipe”, which is the collective guilt i talked about.
Not entirely true, would higly depend on what was legaly challenged as per Regulation (EC) No 864/2007 of the European Parliament and of the Council of 11 July 2007 on the law applicable to non-contractual obligations (Rome II).
Who does this anyway? I can’t even remember a single developer who created a similar website with stats themselves. I know a lot similiar sites with stats and its always 3rd party websites. Fow example aoe2insights for aoe2, ba-hub for broken arrow, dotabuff for dota and etc.
if theres legal grounds gaijin would likely find that out through whichever company hosts the site.
yep, if anything it can make you too cocky as they may have a friend over who is cracked at the game for all we know.
this is something that usually ends up being done eventually as the match continues and we figure out whos having a good match and who is priority to take out. however it does mean that the good player cant prove themselves before being mauled by a squad.
you can check individual players at the start of a match in game so i dont think statshark really changes that too much, other than it being automated.
Also because Patreon is doing all the e-commerce for them, and Gaijin would actually have to pressure THEM to C&D, not a random Discord site… Much easier to make example of a few players in the monthly cheater stats, tbh
because its a rather popular thing that always gets forgotten by devs, would be an appreciated QOL feature and also kills the risk of a 3rd party making a paid for feature of such controversy
unfortunately it is true as many have testified.
I’m not talking about wild claims (e.g players calling BMPT balanced). I’m talking about actually rational claims, e.g “F-16A is underperforming.”
As an example,
User A claims F-16A is underperforming
User B (who has better stats according to statshark) says that User A is wrong because they’re worse and aboslutely nothing else (especially not their argument) matters.
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Id say thats also possible, yes, but again highly depends on the specifics.