Static anti air launchers.

Static launchers
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Hello everybody Today I am talking about static systems.

What is a static system? (Definition)

A static air defense system is a missile launcher setup that is stationary meaning it’s not meant to move after firing or even move. These systems are emplaced at fixed sites.


Today I am talking about an expansion in the Anti Air section of warthunder through out most the countries, to help fix Ground RB from planes and Helis. It is well known to alot of players that Realistic ground is hard to play at times due to either planes or helicopters. And the tanks just have to take it as most of our Anti Air Missiles can not keep up or get out maneuvered by more modern air vehicles.

So my proposal is to add Fixed (Static) Launchers in the games as many modern day Anti Air systems are just trailers placed in a strategically well placed areas around the AO and left. So what I say is to add these in the game with the same concept as the other newer systems. As it will open up many more opportunities for other countries in Warthunder to get a good anti air system

Implementation:

The concept I am using here is already it them game just slightly different. The Stationary (Static) launchers can be placed with the default keys of Alt+c (default controls) just like the claws and other newer systems in the game to add their launcher system, except that these launchers can not move and once placed it will have to stay there for the rest of the match.

The Concept is not complicated it just a simple tweak to the launcher systems which it should be more simpler as you dont have to code or model the parts like you would for a moving vehicle. Why I do find this topic important is I do believe that this would be a nice implementation:

  • Reduces frustration from CAS spam in Ground RB.

  • Adds realism: every modern army uses layered air defense.

  • Encourages tactical positioning and teamwork.

  • Expands tech trees logically, using real systems each nation has or exports.

In depth mechanics:

  1. What vehicle places the Static launcher/ how would the radar connect?:

Just slightly different than in the game, as the radar truck will be the on placing the static launchers as it is mobile. It will use the already in use mechanism the Alt+c mechanism.

Radar:

Using Gaijin’s existing mechanics, the BEST (cleanest, most realistic, most likely to be accepted) method is, ( claws is just an example system) CLAWS-Style Radar → Remote Static Launcher Link.

Details (Hemtt truck as reference):

You spawn as the HEMTT radar truck

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  • You drive to your chosen emplacement

  • Press a deployment key (like “Alt+c”)

  • The static trailer spawns and you place in desired area.

  • Radar stays on your HEMTT

Radar provides detection + lock

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  • You use the HEMTT radar dish to search through the button

  • Lock is passed automatically to the launcher

  • No physical cable required, same as CLAWS

Launcher fires through a remote control link

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  • You can switch from firing from your radar truck using U+Alt shown in picture.

  • you fire missiles with left click or if have multi-missiles left to fire main, Z to fire secondary.

How would it reload:

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We will also use the system of the reload box that I believe every AA has that will replenish all the ammo one time and one time only.

Summary:

The static launcher would connect to the radar using the same system Gaijin already uses for CLAWS: an automatic fire-control link. The player operates the radar from the HEMTT, and the launcher receives target lock data remotely. The player can switch between radar and launcher using Alt+U, just like existing remote-turret systems.

All Short cut keys like Alt+C should be changeable through the controls Tab.

Where do static launchers go on maps?:

Where and where it cannot be placed.

  • Cannot be placed inside enemy spawn.

  • cant be inside buildings

  • Static launchers can’t be placed anywhere your truck is, as it could physically clip into walls, rocks, or small tight spaces or the radar truck.

  • The launcher can ONLY be placed on flat, level ground. Not on buildings, rubble piles, or very uneven terrain.

Terrain

All static WT assets (MG nests, artillery, player-placed systems) require a flat surface to avoid:

  • floating launchers
  • clipping into ground
  • weird angles
  • broken animations
  • Deployable launchers cannot be placed below a certain elevation relative to map boundaries.
    abuse by hiding in mountain cracks
    upward clipping issues
    impossible firing angles

  • can be placed only 20 meters from the radar truck. (When need to spawn the launcher, The radar truck can drive as far as it wants afterwards)

  • The launcher can only be placed in open areas with enough space for the trailer’s footprint.

Nations:

Does every nation get one?

No, not every nation gets a static launcher as some other countries do not use static launchers as there primary air defense system.

U.S.A would get:

Patriot system

Israel would get:

Iron dome system

Italy would get:

Spada 2000

(THERE MAY BE MORE I MISSED)

To those who may find this imbalanced or unfair I do have an explanation.

This is fair due to other nations having modern day anti-air systems that are mobile, this is also does not create imbalance as it will take more skill to use these static launchers and other countries would actually have the upper hand due to having mobile launcher systems that are more capable of hiding rather than dyeing as our launchers cannot move once placed.

All other nations have modern day anti air not all are static so this creates no advantages for the countries that would receive them rather more a disadvantage.

How does the player control it?:

Since you cannot drive the trailered launchers the only way to controll it is to when the player switches over to the launcher, the launcher should only swivel from left to right. And if not in a fixed upward position up and down as well.

Pictures:

Patriot (U.S):

Iron Dome (Israel):

Spada 2000 (Italy):

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I mean. Why not? It’s just a thing that stays in one place. Shouldn’t be that hard to integrate either

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Yes BUT with bigger maps. Otherwise it just becomes a mess. So, qualified +1

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British cold war bloodhound?

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With this NASAMS could also become static anti air launcher for US since AFAIK US does not move their NASAMS so they don’t have any vehicle to carry it

Oh, yes, I wanted to make such an offer myself. I will add that the radar only needs to be the radar from this installation, there cannot be one " truck " for all air defense systems. If a nation does not have a radar that can move, then such an air defense system cannot be added, which I think is logical.

Well, there are options for such air defense systems that I personally would like to see:

MIM-23 HAWK

radar:

MIM-23 HAWK (by the way, the HAWK is especially interesting to me because it is small in size)

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NASAMS 1,2 would be suitable for the USA with earlier missiles, I believe (although someone may say that there are claws with early missiles, but claws cannot take all 6 aim-9x missiles conditionally, and nasams can even divide in half by type 3 aim-120 and 3 aim-9x )

radar:

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Israel: Barak 8

Radar:

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David’s Sling

Radar :

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Arrow 3: I’m not too sure about adding it, firstly, and secondly, I haven’t seen this radar transported by any car, although there are many images where this radar is on a towed base that can be transported by trucks

Radar:

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Some of them could be added just keep the semi truck attached and you can move around.

Well I actually prefer my aa to have wheels. The patriot, iron dome, spada 2000, s300 can have mobile platforms. But ofc nations that only have the static version, also deserves some spaa.

Anyways, things like patriot or s300 are just too big for such small maps, I see it more like an airfield spaa.

current SPAA can counter planes right now but the problem i have is this would make it impossible to play normal CAS like persay i get 8 kills hop in my plane you get targeted by 12 different SPAAs its very hard to play cas at toptier with Sole execption of HELIS with FNF as they FULL COUNTER SPAA its complete dogwater

whats the point of getting 1500 SP for a plane if you can get 750SP heli and do 3X the work

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Literally just model a trailer with some sticks off of it. Gaijin u don’t even have so give it a transmission in the damage model

Not according gajin. The amount of back and forth with the mods for this suggestion is insane, I guess they dont how to add a frame of a vehicle and just remove the damn tires.

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Pretty much all nations have access to theses in one form or another like Germany who both use patriot and s300 (used) but could be cool to see when more advanced atgms or ARMs come +1

Yes germany does use patriot but there patriot is one a mobile launcher which means it is not exactly static even though it may take minutes for it get ready for launching or moving.

We have static units all over Germany too (: they are just much rarer but exist

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This remind of all the ground models that were added a year ago. Most likely it was for SEAD, but those model look good

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They can reuse these model and probably make them player controllable

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Okay, it’s interesting, but.
What are the conditions for the destruction of these launchers?

Put a hamster in the middle of it, if it dies BOOM destruction.

While this is an interesting proposition, the biggest issue right now is the inability of certain Anti-Air missiles to track and hit air vehicles properly, especially helicopters. They pop in, they show on radar, launch the anti-air missile, helicopter goes down, missile loses lock, your SPAA gets destroyed by FnF ATGMs while the helicopter stays in place and survives.
Same in Air. Happened to me multiple times with Aim-120s and the IRIS-T missiles (not sure if others are suffering from the same issue).

I do suffer from fnf missiles launched from helis or Su’s from 9 miles away then ducks back. I do not really know a solution for that, the only one I can think of is bigger maps so we can hide spaa better so that its harder for them to find us and spam FnF, or thermal nets capable of being built over (or fixed thermal net locations) AA systems to hide thermal sig better from air targets.

Bigger maps won’t help if you have maps with little to no cover. Some maps offer buildings, rocks and other stuff to hide behind, but others like extended Poland have little cover, except for trees. And if that cover is half a kilometer away, you will most likely get killed before you can reach cover.