Should still remain superior to the Strela, which should have great issues with cloud cover and ground clutter with it’s sensor because it’s style of photocontrast seeking is just 1960s tech compared to the modern imaging infrared on the Type 93 and Type 81. Same deal the Strela’s seeker is well known to be spoofed by passive dazzlers in Iraq and Afghanistan during the GWOT and Iraq war, however that does not seem to be the case currently as it just ignores all countermeasures.
But yeah given this is war thunder I would not be surprised sadly if they are put on the same level as the russian tech from years prior because thats how gaijin functions.
there’s new datamine that add background factor for the Type 91 SAM and Type 81 SAM
Datamine
don’t know how this will affect though, probably not complete since it was such a miniscule of number.
they probably add another factor that add to that number. but i don’t really know.
From what I know they added ground interference for type93 on latest dev, which seems to be wrong
“By improving the background suppression performance of the guidance system’s image processing, it has become possible to separate low-altitude targets that could not be detected from the background terrain (complex background) and to capture and track them.”
Also interesting part
“Special notes
The uncooled infrared image sensor technology of the sighting device was utilized in the interception operation section of the Type 11 short-range surface-to-air guided missile”
Also I think I will remove most of things I wrote about it when patch comes out. With new optical system its basically new vehicle so I will rewrite it later when I get a feeling I understand how good(or “good”) it is
This is likely talking about the Type 91B since “a” talks about infrared imaging and “c” talks about a reduced smoke motor. Hope isn’t lost though since the Type 93 has access to the Type 91B/SAM-2B
But IIR shouldn’t really be affected by ground interference, you 100% sure it is about 91B?
To me it looks like reports of separate tests for each system of missiles.
Type93 on live right now have separated IR and optical contrast which is wrong. In any possible source IR and optical are mentioned as combined so it must not have ground interference.
If they reject removing interference we can try asking them to change targeting into spike system because of this: https://web.archive.org/web/20030514151944fw_/http://jda-clearing.jda.go.jp/kunrei/i_fd/iz1993p4201.html
“ＳＡＭ－３は、地上において目標に誘導弾をロックオンさせた後、発射することができる”
“SAM-3 can fire guided missiles after locking onto the target on the ground.”(which also confirmation that ground is not a problem for type91)
Wouldn’t be really useful but still fun and better then what they usually do with type93
Yea, but at least it can now do it’s job properly which is what I cared for the most. As long as I can shoot down a heli farther than a dumb 2km range…im happy bro!
it’s kinda sucks with how you need a perfectly clear sky, and not to mention you can’t lock if there’s a ground in the background, like a freaking MOUNTAIN in northside of Test Site and Seversk. even a little object 1meter on the line of sight of you and the heli makes it not able to lock.
Issue is the button doesn’t exist in reality. The real missile always uses optical with passive IR to make up for its shortcomings. Both track at the same time, no modes needed.
Even if IR is the first to see the target flares are useless as soon as the optical system sees it. And if optical is first to see the target ground interference shouldn’t be an issue anymore when the missile enters IR range.
A suitable implementation without actually having both tracking (if this is really a gameplay limitation) is to simply disable interference the way it was on the dev server.
