At the end spitfires and zeros are the meta at prop tier. Why we don’t nerf all of them?
Zeros already got overBR’d cause dumb US mains think its great idea to turnfight em. Like A6M5s slower than bombers at the BR.
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I think they aren’t really made for balanced gameplay. What can I do even in my yak 3 they outturn me they getting faster then me and I just need to hope that they make a mistake or my team comes help. Dogfighting is only possible if they overshot once but after that u can just prey that they won’t hit.
Zeros aren’t meta in any way. They can’t force a fight at all due to their low speed and weak engines.
If a Zero is going faster than your Yak 3, you’ve already made a serious mistake earlier. Why not go play japan and try out the Zeros? Maybe you’ll understand their disadvantages better then.
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Because I get gajined if I would play them XD
Maybe you should master the art of gaijining others while not getting gaijined yourself then.
If I have 12 hours time for war thunder every day I will
There, fixed it for you.
Having played the Zeros, they are overtiered as hell. The A6M5 Ko went from 4.3… to 4.7… to 5.0 pretty dang quickly. It isn’t even that good of a plane! It’s got 125 rounds per 20mm and once you are out you are screwed. It can turn, sure, but that’s it. You aren’t moving faster than anybody, and honestly, you aren’t outgunning anybody anyway. At best you might outclimb someone, but given you 90% of the time are with the US and against Germany and Russia, that’s an unlikely outcome anyway. It’s a miracle I’m able to perform on the plane nowadays, as it is with anyone, but then again I usually played it back when you faced the US so it makes sense why my stats are still sorta ok.
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“Spitfires are literally untouchable”
Do we tell him what properly flown F4U can do?
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entirely depends what type. the f4u4 and the f4u1s are great. but the f4u4b and f4u1c are far from untouchable.
F4U4B can be, but the F4U1C is straight up dogshit, I don’t know why people fly it.
I haven’t touched it really but I like the challenge some planes offer sometimes.
I’ve spaded Seafire FR47 with 2K/D when it was 6.0, was a pain to do that but there was also satisfaction that I’ve managed to do well with that heavy cow.
I’m thinking of doing the seafires, I have them researched but not bought. Any tips for them? I’m assuming you flown all of them.
Only FR47, played with F MkXVII but not much.
It’s Spitfire with Griffon which sounds like it’s going to be good, but because of navalisation it’s damn heavy. Good for catching up to jets in a dive tho. Climbspeed wise it’s worse than Sea Fury but at least it’s fairly maneuverable compared to Sea Fury.
In short it’s just another Spitfire made for energy fighting since unlike other Spits you are not outturning many planes. If you’ve played Griffon Spitfires you’ll have similar experience but a bit worse because it’s much heavier and has less ammo (496 rounds iirc). It works best at high altitude but well, no one really fights up there.
I’ve mainly done BnZ with some defensive flying when needed, sometimes you can just run away with a slight dive depending on what’s chasing you.
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The Seafire FR 47 is a fun plane but she is definitely a big girl between the naval gear and the recon equipment you can definitely feel it in the handling.
You kinda just need to play 4D chess with enemies:
You’re a spitfire frame so people are hesitant to engage
But since your a seafire, people who do engage will probably stick the fight because they see seafires are worse spitfires
BUT, you have a very good engine and people don’t expect how fast you really can be so they often misjudge energy at first making it easy to bait
And they’re gonna fight you like they would fight a spitfire which works to your benefit because as a FR 47 you don’t play like a spitfire
So essentially, you get to bait people into a fight and then fight them the complete opposite way they are expecting the fight to go
(As a side note there is a possibility to buff the FR 47, in game right now with 150 octane fuel you are running 21lbs of boost but IRL it ran 25lbs of boost giving it just under 2400HP)
Nah, I don’t think the f4u4b really can… well maybe in a downtier yes. At it’s own br It’s not the fastest, doesn’t turn the best nor does it climb the best. It’s a jack of all trades master of none type of plane, something like a bf109k4 id put my bet on over an f4u4b if both the pilots are of equal skill. I don’t really think any plane near the f4u4’s br except for the yak3u and hornet are untouchable. The f4u4 has better performance at its own br than the f4u4b, its comparitivly much faster than it’s opponents. Where an f4u4b might only be quicker than a bf109 on deck and slower at medium altitude, the f4u4 is just straight up faster than the fw190s at its br, the bf109s, the la7, yaks 9/3. ETC at most altitudes worth talking about. So in that sense it’s actually untouchable. As you literally can’t catch up to it in any of you teams planes. You need a p51 to catch an f4u4, and those are on your side.
You ever seen US mains call the P-51s bad because they cant get in slow dogfights with Spitfires and shit? hilarious.
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NGL I was terrified of late spitfires in the p51h5 bc all I really had was top speed and dive over them
Yeah, it requires you to play your cards right. In the H, you have really good chances against the similar rated spitfires
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I wasn’t talking about the F4U-4, it’s fairly decent for its BR. The problem is most US players there are lobotomites. The F4U-1C is what irks me the most, it only has cannons going for it, and is insanely easy to neutralize.
Don’t be LOL, Mk14’s are generally slow, Mk22 feels kind of the same, I have barely fought Mk24’s but they’re atleast slightly better. Lf. Mk9’s the big headache. If you know your energy management well then the Lf functions as a rabid, steroid-infested, possible sexual predator british A6M Zero.
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