Spitfires are literally untouchable. You should do something to balance it out, because it's getting out of hand

Maybe you should master the art of gaijining others while not getting gaijined yourself then.

If I have 12 hours time for war thunder every day I will

There, fixed it for you.

Having played the Zeros, they are overtiered as hell. The A6M5 Ko went from 4.3… to 4.7… to 5.0 pretty dang quickly. It isn’t even that good of a plane! It’s got 125 rounds per 20mm and once you are out you are screwed. It can turn, sure, but that’s it. You aren’t moving faster than anybody, and honestly, you aren’t outgunning anybody anyway. At best you might outclimb someone, but given you 90% of the time are with the US and against Germany and Russia, that’s an unlikely outcome anyway. It’s a miracle I’m able to perform on the plane nowadays, as it is with anyone, but then again I usually played it back when you faced the US so it makes sense why my stats are still sorta ok.

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“Spitfires are literally untouchable”

Do we tell him what properly flown F4U can do?

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entirely depends what type. the f4u4 and the f4u1s are great. but the f4u4b and f4u1c are far from untouchable.

F4U4B can be, but the F4U1C is straight up dogshit, I don’t know why people fly it.

I haven’t touched it really but I like the challenge some planes offer sometimes.

I’ve spaded Seafire FR47 with 2K/D when it was 6.0, was a pain to do that but there was also satisfaction that I’ve managed to do well with that heavy cow.

I’m thinking of doing the seafires, I have them researched but not bought. Any tips for them? I’m assuming you flown all of them.

Only FR47, played with F MkXVII but not much.

It’s Spitfire with Griffon which sounds like it’s going to be good, but because of navalisation it’s damn heavy. Good for catching up to jets in a dive tho. Climbspeed wise it’s worse than Sea Fury but at least it’s fairly maneuverable compared to Sea Fury.

In short it’s just another Spitfire made for energy fighting since unlike other Spits you are not outturning many planes. If you’ve played Griffon Spitfires you’ll have similar experience but a bit worse because it’s much heavier and has less ammo (496 rounds iirc). It works best at high altitude but well, no one really fights up there.

I’ve mainly done BnZ with some defensive flying when needed, sometimes you can just run away with a slight dive depending on what’s chasing you.

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The Seafire FR 47 is a fun plane but she is definitely a big girl between the naval gear and the recon equipment you can definitely feel it in the handling.

You kinda just need to play 4D chess with enemies:

You’re a spitfire frame so people are hesitant to engage

But since your a seafire, people who do engage will probably stick the fight because they see seafires are worse spitfires

BUT, you have a very good engine and people don’t expect how fast you really can be so they often misjudge energy at first making it easy to bait

And they’re gonna fight you like they would fight a spitfire which works to your benefit because as a FR 47 you don’t play like a spitfire

So essentially, you get to bait people into a fight and then fight them the complete opposite way they are expecting the fight to go

(As a side note there is a possibility to buff the FR 47, in game right now with 150 octane fuel you are running 21lbs of boost but IRL it ran 25lbs of boost giving it just under 2400HP)

Nah, I don’t think the f4u4b really can… well maybe in a downtier yes. At it’s own br It’s not the fastest, doesn’t turn the best nor does it climb the best. It’s a jack of all trades master of none type of plane, something like a bf109k4 id put my bet on over an f4u4b if both the pilots are of equal skill. I don’t really think any plane near the f4u4’s br except for the yak3u and hornet are untouchable. The f4u4 has better performance at its own br than the f4u4b, its comparitivly much faster than it’s opponents. Where an f4u4b might only be quicker than a bf109 on deck and slower at medium altitude, the f4u4 is just straight up faster than the fw190s at its br, the bf109s, the la7, yaks 9/3. ETC at most altitudes worth talking about. So in that sense it’s actually untouchable. As you literally can’t catch up to it in any of you teams planes. You need a p51 to catch an f4u4, and those are on your side.

You ever seen US mains call the P-51s bad because they cant get in slow dogfights with Spitfires and shit? hilarious.

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NGL I was terrified of late spitfires in the p51h5 bc all I really had was top speed and dive over them

Yeah, it requires you to play your cards right. In the H, you have really good chances against the similar rated spitfires

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I wasn’t talking about the F4U-4, it’s fairly decent for its BR. The problem is most US players there are lobotomites. The F4U-1C is what irks me the most, it only has cannons going for it, and is insanely easy to neutralize.

Don’t be LOL, Mk14’s are generally slow, Mk22 feels kind of the same, I have barely fought Mk24’s but they’re atleast slightly better. Lf. Mk9’s the big headache. If you know your energy management well then the Lf functions as a rabid, steroid-infested, possible sexual predator british A6M Zero.

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How funny today i turnfought a zero in a spit and lost in a heartbeat. Your statement is bure bs

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yap yap yap skill issue

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I mean, compared to the P-47Ds the P-51C and Ds are kinda disappointing.
P-51H is an exception, and going by it’s design, it’s not even a P-51 any more and just looks like it. It’s as much of a P-51 as the MB-5 is a P-51.
P-47N though was gaijined hard by Gaijin and I have no clue why they made it worse after reducing it’s weight. “We gotta give it tons of fuel!”

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Umm… the C-10 is better than the P-47D-22. The P-51D-30 is better than the P-47D-28. What are you on?

Tell it to the people beating G-2s in dogfights in P-47s.
P-51 has slightly more energy retention than the P-47D but the difference is so minor that I find I’m in toss-up situations on if the P-51 can run away. Not only that, the P-51s only effective flaps are the combat and maybe take-off flaps. but the full range of flaps on the P-47 allows it to turn inside really well, mixed with the wing design in general being pretty good with turn performance, very lifty for it’s size.

Also, it gets better than the P-51 the higher you go, I’m not even talking engine performance at this, but just that the wings of the P-47 are way more efficient, the second you get to around 3000m you’re basically fighting an uphill battle at that point if you’re in a P-51 facing a P-47. There’s a reason why the P-47 IRL was a better fighter than the P-51D, and the only they picked the P-51 was because it was cheaper, and they didn’t want to use larger sized drop-tanks like the australians used to great effect.

when flying the D-22, I’ve fought Spitfire Mk Vcs at 4000m and I had them on the ropes each time. This wasn’t me diving on them. This was me fighting them at equal altitude on a merge.