Spike ATGMs Suck, and So Will the PUMA Spike Upgrade

Spike without Fire & Observe/Update is not a Spike.

Anyhow good luck to convinging Gaijin to implement proper lofting, there has been same effort with Hellfires for a looong time.

Australia, Azerbaijan, Belgium, Bulgaria, Brazil, Cameroon, Canada, Chile, Colombia, Croatia, Czech Republic, Denmark, Ecuador, Estonia, Finland, Germany, Kurdistan, Greece, Hungary, Israel, Italy, Latvia, Netherlands, Peru, Philippines, Poland, Romania, Singapore, Slovakia, Slovenia, Switzerland, Thailand, South Korea, Spain, United Kingdom and the United States all use the spike ATGM in either a vehicle or man portable state. What is your point?

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As I said, Russia isn’t in that list.

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Does Russia use any NATO / western equipment. No? They just buy the electronics. By that logic anything that isn’t used by Russia is not good lol. Last time I checked Rafaela did not sell nor want to sell to Russia.

Nice bait, “strongest and the best military in the world” is so good that they can’t produce electronics themselves and can’t really be done with a war that they ve started.

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You may aswell ask why Russia has no Abrahams or challenger tanks then since abrahams and challenger have very low loss rates in comparison to russian or soviet MBTs.

Every doctrine is different.
If Austria where to invent a revolutionary technology that changes warfare entirely does not nescesarily mean that everone is going to adapt it if it is not deemed as nescesarry.
Or they simply have other, more relevant issues rn .
But that would be a jump into politics.

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Ofc it’s the strongest one You can tell by how they are losing to a minor country with slight help

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While also not even being able to use any of the stuff given in actual Russian territory, too. They could straight up just hit Moscow rn but have promised not to.

Yeah, US is the strongest with a large gap to the second largest, which is most likely china now

China has their own copy of the spike, the HJ-12
Given that china is (arguably) the second best/best army in the world depending on who youre talking to, I wonder why ‘glorious’ russia hasnt made one

damn even japan has their own fire and forget, the Type 01

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Even iran has a copy the spike, atleast a system with simmilar capabilites.

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The closest thing russia has is I think the Hermes missile, which doesnt loft and acts like a Maverick, and seems to be utter vaporware

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So almost like the SU57, checkmate, T14, ratnik program and domestic thermals that are better or equal to french imports? What else is new :D

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jesus how delusional are you? strongest military in the world getting stuck in their special military operation lol

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That’s right, Russia would be using these if they weren’t just overpriced toys.
Strongest ground force in the world isn’t using them and we all know the western military is just a money laundering scheme…

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ingame top down attacks are all dull. Be it Pars or Spike… Even if those climb super high up above the battlefield, when it finally heads downwards, it always hits one of the side/frontal armor arrays. NEVER the TOP of a tank. Lofting is bugged or intentionally nerfed. For hits into the side or frontal armor the warhead is too weak, means the whole missile gets pointless. You just can’t kill MBTs this way, used spike all day, but just got one kill (an unarmored light). Another issue is that is often fails to hit.

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I have gotten MBT kills but you need to make sure the IR lock is on the rear end of the tank and you have to hope it’s either side on to you or sort of 3/4 profile - Spike will hit the engine deck and with a bit of luck shrapneling sets off the ammo. Any other time it either just hits barrel, driver’s hatch, or explodes for no reason mid-air.

all the russian tanks destroyed by the Javelin or NLAW disagree with you in a conflict not allowed to be named

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he is making an ironical joke