Spike ATGMs Suck, and So Will the PUMA Spike Upgrade

It’s due to being an IR lock; Gaijin has modeled the heat emissions from tanks in a weird way where as far as the IR is concerned a tank isn’t “hot” unless the engine compartment is visible. Try it with a teammate, have him stick his ass out from behind cover and you’ll generally be able to lock him even if he is 2/3rd’s covered.

Spike doesn’t hit for me. Not a single hit in a real game. At typical short ingame distances useless.

Edit: Had high expectations first, cause on the shooting range its not bad :) But doesn’t translate into typical ingame situations. I fire it non stop, doesn’t connect. Since you don’t even see a smoketrail or something, you also have no clue what the problem is.

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the problem is that he tried to counter argument with other games mechanics and that made it worse, and not only that but just plainly insulting us without actually tried to give a valid explanation on why it would be op and instead kept bringing the same thing about “other game this” or “other game that” and claiming that he played FAF in war thunder when you cant even see his main account to prove that, he was just making an argument to try and win it while changing our words and his words numerous times and also trying to make us look as i f we were the bad guys and he was the good guy.

IIRC the PUMA uses SPIKE-LRs which are unique among the SPIKE family in that they can be used in Fire-and-Observe mode, where guidance is given to the missile through fiber-optic cables. So FnF or wire-guided. Does the LR2 also have this function? I’m fairly certain the MR doesn’t.

Its actually insane how this thing underperforms!

I’ll make you laugh, just think that for the FRECCIA they went lower since they could choose whether to give him the LR2 or MR spikes and they decided to give him the ones that are scarcer as always…

Can’t wait to get my Spikes fixed now that the German are starting to cry about it ! Keep going guys 😀

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We’ve been complaining since the PARS 3LR days my man, nothing will be fixed until the Russians get something similar

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ty for the support we’ll keep crying to fix everyone’s problem since yall cant at least try to get info to fix it

I made 4 technical bug reports and one historical bug report on the Spikes. How many bug reports have you made on them ? Yeah, I thought so.

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/hob3xd9aXOHR
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/4sIiZG90Z86l
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/G5An1HlCTnRs
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/JtIlL7zx7Du6
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/GTcAkxzKqBZW

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I mentioned no specific game mechanics, I simply called out other games that tried to implement FnF into PvP games. I can list more but you are too simple to understand such a basic point. I asked a very simple question about what makes FnF more advantages and you chose not to answer, liukely because you know it proves my point. Seeing my main account doesn’t prove anything and all I see here is someone whining about being a victim. Instead of trying to put words into others and then argue about it, you actually stop to read what they are typing.

Considering you suck in all other helis combining for a whopping .65 KD, tell me how you get a 1.75 KD in your UHT.

I won’t Even answer to any of your questions or retalitation to this point, You have only been acting all inoccent while being hypcorite and cynical and if i ever tell You why You have been cynical You Will then start acting all inoccent saying “that’s not what i said” or just getting stuff out of context to appear inoccent You are not worth the time to waste and i Will ignore You from this point foward have a good day

anyone got info of the spikes regarding the capacities of loitering around a target? or lock after fire?

Here i got a couple websites and a PDF directly from rafael.

Eurospike spike LR-2

Rafael’s ‘Smarter’ Spike is Designed to Defeat Tanks with Active Protection
Rafael Advanced Defense Systems new SPIKE missile
Sprike LR-2 missile weapon system

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thank you

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Not surprised reading his arguments maxe me want to rip my hair out, he has to be trolling right?

I made a single point about FnF in games and how they do not add value. It’s not a hard concept to understand, for whatever reason one dude wants to argue for the sake of it. Pretty obvious who the troll is. Generally speaking the biggest advocates for FnF are those who arent very good and want to continue using a widely considered over powered mechanic. As I mentioned, you can see his terrible helicopter stats with a single exception…

would also be nice if they fixed lofting

this is what we should have not this -15 deg bs we have rn

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In the end it means top attack not half and a top attack