Spanish (Iberian) Tech Tree

What I am going to present here includes a country that has already been discussed in this subforum, but I believe it was not properly introduced and the comments section quickly turned into a several-way discussion about unrelated topics that led nowhere. Also, it was introduced to the old forums, where the discussion was much, much more helpful and actually helped further develop the idea. Here is the link:

Long story short, what I am suggesting here is a joint Spanish and Portuguese tech tree. I have seen people argue here on the forums that Spain has no native designs, which is clearly untrue; just a quick look at the post, its link (the neocities one), and the five pages of comments is enough to tell that lack of tanks is not as much of an issue as it is with countries like China, for example. In any case, Portugal tends to fill the holes that Spain DOES have, and that’s why I believe that a joint tree (or Spanish with a Portuguese line, like Italy and Hungary or Sweden and Finland) would be a good addition if Gaijin decides to add a new tree to the game at some point.

If it was not clear by now, I am clearly more versed in tanks than in planes. However, there is also a post with a Spanish Air Tree suggestion, which then again, to my understanding, could use some additions from Portugal’s development.

I invite you to participate and discuss these ideas, however, please try to be respectful and don’t start arguing over unrelated stuff. This post is not about discussing if Gaijin should add more countries or not, bur rather if they decide to add a new tree, should it be this one? Thanks for reading all the way here and have a good one.

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You should expand on this and post it in the suggestions tab, it’s a good concept.

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There is also a full fledged navel tree that lupin III and me did way back in the old forum

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Also i updated my air tree proposal in combination with portugal.

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+1. I want Spain in WT

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Thank you for this contribution, I did not know about its existence!

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+1. I want spain as an independent branch in war thunder.

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EMMM.
I am spanish but i do not see it.
Maybe combined with Argentina,Brasil or as a subtechtree will be introduced.

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As you can see at the topic title is the Spanish “iberian” TT, that means Spain and Portugal. Spain as the main nation and Portugal as subtree. Argentina, Brazil and more can have his own TT too with for example Argentina as the main nation and Brazil as subtree. And adding these nations (Spain or Argentina) as subtrees for me is not fair. We already have Israel and China who yes has his own production models but they are more copy paste in tanks than Spain IMO. In planes is a bit different but even they have copy pasted planes but with other names so as i said, if we already have copy-paste “nations” in WT we can have Spain as a country in the game, Argentina and more

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@ViktorKatona is there any chance of creating this topic updated in the suggestions part? I mean do you have the original tech trees to modify them and add the new vehicles of Spain to add it as a suggestion for the devs?

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+1

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I’d definitely enjoy this! Thanks for the post :)

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+1. Im spanish and I want a tech tree to spend my money

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Right, with rumors of Korea being a new addition, I find it neccessary to revive this topic, because there’s so much potential for all three branches.

It’s a shame the original concept for a Spanish TT was lost, but just to add a grain of mine, I’d like to just briefly mention some vehicles derived from the BMR-600/625 platform:

Pegaso BMR-600 w/ twin 106mm Recoilless

BMR-600 MILAN

BMR-600 TOW


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BMR-600 SIDAM 25

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Pegaso BMR-625 VEC (Rheinmetall)

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BMR-625 VEC (Oerlikon)

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BMR-625 VEC (TC-20)

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BMR-625 VEC (TC-25)

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Pegaso BMR-625 VEC (H90)

And all this is ONLY for Cold War wheeled AFVs.

Developers shouldn’t waste this chance. The Spanish playerbase of War Thunder is pretty big, and the game could potentially attract way more players if they added an interesting Spanish TT (which would make War Thunder unique in this aspect), instead of adding 2 Premium vehicles scattered across other tech trees.

Korea is confirmed but so are more nations coming to the game

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Almost non of the vehicle here native, this is simply uniteresting

Their is just no reason why we would need a spanish tech other than “I am spanish and want to play my own country”

How were you able to come to this conclusion if none of the tech tree links work? 🤨

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Some people sent images, and I know for a fact all of spains major equipment today is either collaboration work or imports

Yes, many platforms we used were foreign (T-26, BT-5, M8, M24, M41, M108, M109, M55, M47, M48, AMX-30, M60, Leopard 2…)

…but we made pretty remarkable and numerous modifications out of them (just to name a few, Pz. I Breda, CV 33/35 Breda, M41 TUA, M47 E/M, M48A5, M48A5E2, AMX-30EM2, AMX-30EM2 SABBLIR, M60 Repotenciado…)

…plus other native vehicles (BMR-600, BMR-625, VCI Pizarro, VCR Dragón…)

…and other projects that could’ve become real (Verdeja, Lince, San Carlos, Rocío…)

I believe there’s a good mix of export and original/interesting vehicles just for Ground alone, it wouldn’t be like China or Israel where almost everything is either C&P or the same stuff copied over and over again.

The air industry would be more C&P, with some unique aircraft, and naval would mostly be modified US vessels, but still, I believe it’s worth it. There’s stuff to flesh, and it would make War Thunder the only game of its kind to have this.

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This kind of interesting modification and project fits more has a sub-tree than a full on standalone thos, standalone makes trees less accecible if they are not meta or viable