SPAAG's are too broken

I am sure everyone and their mom is going to pull the “git gud” crap but in no world should a SPAAG at 1400 meters be able to kill a tank. I was just killed from that range by the Russian 23mm i think is…the quad barrel AA.
Even at 100m, a 23mm shouldnt do much of anything. Ok maybe the Gepards 35mm but overall these are busted to no end and need to be reined in ASAP. The fire rates are too high to have that level of penetration and lets not even talk about them doing it with the AA ammunition. Ive done in a Gepard not using the APFSDS. Has to be a balance with them and this just isnt it.

Let them have the 50m kill range but at distance those rounds lose far to much energy to say they still penetrate hardened armor plate. Its funny even if they ammo is rated only 50mm, you can still punch through 100+mm without any issue so there is something wrong in the math.

USSR spaa are NOT the issue, the spammy 35mm ones are

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they both are.

Its just that USSR is consistently at the top of the ranks for best SPAA for a BR.

So the ZSU-23-4 is better than a gepard?

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as a SPAA almost. hence why its a little lower.

Can still kick the crap out of most tanks enough to disable their gun and tracks easily. it gets 50mm of pen so can sideswipe plenty too.

Its also facing late ww2 gen jet fighters and tanks so totally balanced right?

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In my experience, barreling is extremely difficult because of its low calibre. Its also noticably a LOT less manouverable than other SPAA so killing tanks is much harder. And the Gepard is only 0.3 higher for a much better platform…

its slower than a leopard hull of course but its still more than powerful for a vehicle that should be shooting planes and not tanks.

At least its not the M53/59, that thing is a blatantly OP spaa to be facing ww2 props.

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Well I can’t exactly see it performing well against anything faster… it shoots slow, its got low round velocity and its turret doesn’t move around fast.

to be knocked out at 1400m by a Shilka you have to be playing something with absolutely no armour, so what’s the problem?

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Shilka’s radar is awful, it only works for searching. Though compared to SIDAM-25 I love AP shells in stock belt, I wish they will add at least SAPHEI-T someday for Sidam.

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the shilka does just fine.

just under 1000m/s shell velocity which is insane fast. 850rpm is more than plenty. 60+ degrees a second traverse is plenty too

if you mean the m53/59 its even more insane in its gun capability. however its missing a radar.