idk what you’re talking about
Definitely disagree with that, if you miss your shot with the centurion it is over for you.
This seems like you’re judging a fish by it’s ability to climb a tree here. I think at best your comment is an indication that you can be more sloppy with the Falcon that you can with the centurion mk.10, despite your issue with it, a quick check of your stats reveals that you still perform better in the Cent than the Falcon.
APHE that has good enough performance to take on a T-80 from the front.
I’d love to see a demonstration as I find this comment difficult to believe.
It also thrives in its current environment as well with that era of the cold war having many tanks like the leopard 1 and the turm III that prioritize movement over armor.
This is a fair comment, and honestly it supports my point fairly well as I’d argu that the Falcon sits at its current BR due to its anti tank performance as opposed to it being a particularly effective AA gun at its BR.
I would rather bring the falcon against most tanks other than something like an IS-4. Even a T-10 will fall at the hands of a falcon, even head on
This comment has a shred of realism to it if the Falcon is Track and Barrelling the heavy tanks and something with armour penetration is actually delivering the killing blow.
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Honestly, that’s something I do agree with. But it can’t be helped, players have their own choices to make and there is no forced rule saying they must use certain vehicles in a certain way.
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Indeed, so while it can be annoying in more ways than one, I don’t have an interest in trying to police gameplay in such a way or tell Gaijin to remove such belts from SPAA.
Besides, good luck to anyone trying to use the ZSU-57-2 as a SPAA. In my entire time of spading it I think I only every got about 3-4 aircraft kills.
ZSU-57-2 is better off using as a IFV than a SPAA. Hard to aim with that thing, just like with the duster. Doable, but much harder. I got 10 air kills and 51 ground, I missed a lot.
Yes, it definitely is a glorified IFV. I’d say one of the best in the game, hampered only by being how lightly protected it is.
Though, that’s a fair trade-off for being able to do as much damage as it can do if left unchecked.
I mean historically it was a sub par SPAA used mostly for ground support.
Should probably be in the artillery TT not the SPAA
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That’d be a reasonable change, imho.
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While I do not have a photo or video of it taking on a T-80 from the front right now, I can explain how to do it. I was uptiering it for fun with a friend, and I was jumped by a T-80. It took out my friend, and I began to spray at its turret and roof. Eventually I somehow penned around the IR spotlight or whatever it is, and I managed to yellow the turret crew before I was turned into aluminum dust by the cannon
Btw, I’m not actually sure if it was a T-80, my mental image of it is pretty much gone by now, all I can remember is that I penned it on the right (facing you is left) cheek on a large dark portion of the turret. I can also remember it was Russian.
remove APDS or high pen APHE from ALL SPAA
Honestly, yeah. I think some would keep it like the ZSU-57-2, but for the most part, neither of those are needed. Maybe if they remove those we can get more balanced SPAA that have BR’s based off of AA performance
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its needed to give certain nations an spaa at major BRs. such as moving the falcon to 7.7 without apds and a pretty important BR for that tree gets one of the largest SPAA voids semi-plugged. will hopefully also stop huge clumps of SPAAs all for one lineup that we see in so many trees
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Oh great so now they can’t even defend themselves?
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You could still barrel or track them, you alone wouldn’t be able to outright kill them like a light vehicle though
Yeah don’t agree with that idea.
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if your SPAAs are having to defend themselves, YOU and your team screwed up.
also not like the spamcanons that SPAAs have cant dismantle most tanks enough to escape with their standard anti aircraft belts either.
I’ve shredded several top tier tanks with the 25mm gatling gun on the stormer AD to recapture points before. This will just stop AA from being a scummy tank hunter and force SPAA to actually be an SPAA
That’s not a very compelling reason to remove their self defense ammo from them.
Doubtful
That’s the issue, it’s not being used as “self defense ammo”
Maybe if gaijin ever adds spawn point adjustments you can have an SPAA cost for normal AA belts and a light tank cost if you decide to bring apds
the “self defence” ammo is not used as defence by players but as offence. This is a game ruining exploit for people that want tank combat, not spamcanon combat.
this guy understands
I have a feeling you either haven’t played long enough or around the BRs where the problem is most prevalent.
Gepard, AMX-13 DCA 40, AMX-30 S DCA, Falcon, duster, XM246 and plenty more are abused to get extremely fast kills on tanks that cant do anything back due to the flawed mechanics of the game.
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I understand your gripe.
I don’t agree with your proposed solution because it leaves SPAA even more vulnerable than they already are.
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